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2,405 Shot Dead Since Tucson
The Daily Beast ^ | March 14, 2011

Posted on 03/14/2011 6:44:24 PM PDT by La Lydia

.... “When I talk to lawmakers in D.C., they’re always polite,” says New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an outspoken gun-control advocate. “But they always say the same thing: ‘Well, guns are important, but I can’t really get into that now.’ ”

President Obama is no exception: He’s spent the two months since Tucson paying lip service to the issue. Shortly after the shooting, three of his heaviest hitters—David Plouffe, Robert Gibbs, and David Axelrod—began to drop hints about the president’s intentions. Axelrod said there’s “no doubt” Obama “will engage in… that debate.” Plouffe went further, noting his boss’s support for the assault-weapons ban and promising that “he’s going to address this.” Asked last week for an update, a senior White House official told Newsweek that advisers are still “exploring a variety of ways the president could” weigh in. It’s hard not to wonder whether Obama’s plan is to pacify liberal critics by continuing to mention some vague dream of addressing gun safety at some wispy future date—then to cross his fingers and hope they forget.

If you believe the conventional wisdom, this strategy makes a certain sense: Why distract the electorate with a wedge issue when the economy is shaky and the Middle East is blowing up? But what if the chattering class is wrong? What if Obama is missing a rare opportunity? As much as he might like to move on, the issue isn’t going away—nor should it...

Gun-safety advocates would argue that Obama has a moral duty to stanch the bleeding, and that may be true. But what’s particularly interesting right now isn’t the moral equation. It’s the practical one. Look beyond the hoary Washington logic, and it’s clear that the present moment may be peculiar enough, and the forces at work potent enough, to produce real movement on gun safety—provided Obama proceeds carefully. That means no outlawing specific guns. No relitigating the Second Amendment. And no frantic liberal overreach....

It’s counterintuitive, but the current political climate might favor gun control as well. ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; giffords; gunsdontkildemsdo
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This is what the people who want to do away with the 2nd amendment are thinking. It is a long, depressing read.
1 posted on 03/14/2011 6:44:28 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

None shot in my well armed little town.


2 posted on 03/14/2011 6:46:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

None shot in my well armed, concealed-carry little corner of the world, either. In fact, very little crime whatsoever. :)


3 posted on 03/14/2011 6:47:33 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: cripplecreek

Yep!


4 posted on 03/14/2011 6:48:45 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: La Lydia

“Andrew Romano is a senior writer for Newsweek.”

We don’t need to know anything else.

When they come for your guns make sure to give them the ammunition first.


5 posted on 03/14/2011 6:48:54 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: La Lydia

We don’t even lock our doors around here.


6 posted on 03/14/2011 6:53:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: La Lydia
‘Well, guns are important, but I can’t really get into that now.’ ”

President Obama is no exception: He’s spent the two months since Tucson boogieing, playing golf, and eating ice cream...

7 posted on 03/14/2011 6:55:05 PM PDT by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: La Lydia

2405 is minuscule compared to when they come to TRY to take our guns away. Ain’t gonna happen.


8 posted on 03/14/2011 6:56:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Look for the union label and just say, NO!)
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To: La Lydia

Clearly Bloomberg would prefer the statistic to be “2,405 Stabbed or Bludgeoned to Death Since Tuscon”. I’m not sure what leads to this predilection for stabbery and bludgeondom; but, to each his own I guess.


9 posted on 03/14/2011 6:58:59 PM PDT by PENANCE
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2,405 Shot Dead Since Tucson

Yeah, and 2400 of them were probably deserving a bullet, either shot by cops in commission of a crime, shot by law abiding citizens defending their homes, gangbangers killing other gangbangers, and the suicides.....

10 posted on 03/14/2011 6:59:25 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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We don’t even lock our doors around here.

Same here. But I'm so poor if someone thought they needed what I've got, I'd help them load it.

11 posted on 03/14/2011 7:00:36 PM PDT by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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About half of them were suicides, so not really gun related since they would’ve done it another way, such as pills, closed garage with car running, hanging or jumping off a building.


12 posted on 03/14/2011 7:04:50 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: La Lydia
the pro-gun lobby has outspent gun-control forces by a factor of 20 to 1, according to the Center for Responsive Politics; in 2008 alone, the NRA and its allies shelled out $2.4 million, or 41 times what the other side was able to spend. In 1988, 18 states had laws that made it easy for civilians to carry concealed handguns in public; now that number is approaching 40...
This is what the people who want to do away with the 2nd amendment are thinking. It is a long, depressing read.

You certainly can't tell what the position is until I got to that paragraph, and if it's longer, or depressing, I got no time for further crap.

The pro-gun group outspends the morons. Deal with it.
Why doesn't that argument work with criminal public employee thug unions? But I digress...

The only valid arguments are these : Have mass killings occured in states or communities that have deliberate open-carry laws?

Does the moron who writes this stuff think that lives may have been saved in mass murders of the past had more people had firearms as protection with them?

Reason intuitively says lives would definitely have been saved.

I don't EVER expect to read this headline in a right to carry environment "23 killed by crazed muslim sandmaggot or Christian Fundamentalist."

13 posted on 03/14/2011 7:05:02 PM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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‘Well, guns are important, but I can’t really get into that now.’ ”

Watch out when he says, "Well, guns are REALLY, REALLY important."

That's when the shit will hit the fan.

14 posted on 03/14/2011 7:06:27 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: La Lydia

Mayor Bedbug needs to stick to his day job.


15 posted on 03/14/2011 7:07:58 PM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: La Lydia

2,405 Shot Dead Since Tucson

LOL Idiot!

Want to that bet most of them are in urban liberal cesspools controlled by democrat trash where gun ownership is illegal?


16 posted on 03/14/2011 7:10:23 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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I can only encourage the enemies of the 2nd Amendment to go forth, immediately and with all strength, to show their hand and attempt their goals.

Let them self-flush in front of the duck blind of armed America.

17 posted on 03/14/2011 7:11:00 PM PDT by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!)
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To: bigheadfred

LOL I got a whole garage full of crap they can have.


18 posted on 03/14/2011 7:15:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: La Lydia
Fourteen people just died in a Gambling Bus accident in New York.

I'm waiting for Bloomberg to propose banning Buses and Casinos to stop the carnage.

Robert Atkins the diet guru, died because he slipped on a icy sidewalk and hit his head. If ice was illegal, it wouldn't have happened.

19 posted on 03/14/2011 7:19:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: HIDEK6
That's when the shit will hit the fan.

I wish it would.

The cesspool of the genepool could use some sanitizing.

20 posted on 03/14/2011 7:20:00 PM PDT by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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