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Japan Asks US To Help Stop Reactor Meltdown
Sky News ^ | March 14, 2011 | Sky News

Posted on 03/14/2011 1:45:20 PM PDT by americanophile

Japan has asked the US for help to stop a quake-damaged nuclear reactor plunging into uncontrollable meltdown. The plea comes after a second hydrogen explosion occurred at a nuclear plant where officials warned that three nuclear rods in a cooling-starved reactor appeared to be melting.

Plumes of grey smoke billowed into the air after the blast at the Fukushima Daiichi plant's number 3 unit, injuring 11 people.

Japan's chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano confirmed the fear of rods melting inside all three of the site's most troubled reactors.

"Although we cannot directly check it, it's highly likely happening," he said.

Officials insist the inner reactor's container remains intact - but concern was raised when number 2 unit's fuel rods were left fully exposed by a falling cooling water level.

Workers managed to raise water levels after a second drop on Monday night, but they began falling for a third time, according to nuclear agency official Naoki Kumagai.

Specialists are now considering spraying water directly on the hermetically-sealed container in an attempt to cool it.

The former deputy director of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) told Sky News that the status of the faulty reactor may deteriorate even more.

"I think the situation is still very, very grim - we are by far not over the worst," Olli Heinonen said.

Harvard-based Mr Heinonen said it is now important for US expertise to be employed to minimise the risk of a catastrophic failure.

"They are the best people to know their (reactors') behaviour, particularly when you go into this phase and assess the consequences."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; japan; japanearthquake; melt; meltdown; nuclear; obama; obamafailure; phonecall
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The call has gone out. We must respond. Time to get this government moving: White House comment line 202-456-1111
1 posted on 03/14/2011 1:45:29 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

Zero is too busy.....he is on the Golf course...............


2 posted on 03/14/2011 1:47:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: americanophile

Sky News seems to be reporting the grimmest version of events.


3 posted on 03/14/2011 1:48:38 PM PDT by DManA
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To: americanophile

To late. The bag of tricks has already been expended. Empty clip. When you are flooding with seawater there is nothing left that is effective.


4 posted on 03/14/2011 1:48:45 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: americanophile

Obama is too busy designing his NCAA bracket.

Try calling him again tomorrow.


5 posted on 03/14/2011 1:48:57 PM PDT by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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To: americanophile

White House: “Call back later, Obama is golfing.”


6 posted on 03/14/2011 1:48:57 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: americanophile

I’m afraid to call. I may get myslelf in trouble by asking “what’s more important, Obama’s anti-nuclear stance and accepting anything to advance it or saving lives?”


7 posted on 03/14/2011 1:49:16 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: americanophile
The call has gone out. We must respond. Time to get this government moving: White House comment line 202-456-1111

Just be sure to press 1 for English.

8 posted on 03/14/2011 1:50:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: americanophile
President Obama, this is that "3:00 am" phone call. What are you going to do (you have the pay grade now)...?

You know what you have to do... do it.

9 posted on 03/14/2011 1:50:58 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: americanophile

Obama, party of none. You have a call in the Pro-Shop. Stop golfing and answer it.


10 posted on 03/14/2011 1:51:04 PM PDT by sappy (let taxpayers bargain collectively)
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To: DManA

I don’t know. By the looks of the photos I’ve been seeing, and I don’t mean just nuclear plant related picures, it seems pretty grim to me over there. NO reporting necessary. I would not and could not wish that on my worst enemy.


11 posted on 03/14/2011 1:51:28 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: americanophile

Sorry. Wagyu Monday.

Might be able to squeeze you in next Thursday.


12 posted on 03/14/2011 1:52:01 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: americanophile

This is major loss of face!


13 posted on 03/14/2011 1:52:15 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: americanophile
And we are supposed to do exactly what? I'm serious this isn't a problem you can throw money at and make it better. Either you have the pumps to keep the reactor cool or you don't. Now if we can get pumps and generators there we should by all means do so. If there is some expert at GE that can help them find a way to coll these things down by all means fly them in as soon as possible.

What asset does the US have that Japan doesn't? And if we have the magic bullet why haven't we already gotten it over there?
14 posted on 03/14/2011 1:52:31 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: americanophile

From the ‘experts’ on FR there’s no problem at all, so they shouldn’t need any help at all.


15 posted on 03/14/2011 1:52:31 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: DManA
“The Japanese government has formally asked for assistance from the United States as it continues to respond to nuclear power plant cooling issues triggered by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11. As part of a larger U.S. government response, the NRC is considering possible replies to the request, which includes providing technical advice,” said a statement issued by the Nuclear Regulatory Agency."

http://www.vancouverite.com/2011/03/14/japan-asks-u-s-for-help-with-nuke-plant-meltdown-threat/

16 posted on 03/14/2011 1:53:32 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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To: Red Badger

I can’t believe they had to ask. Did we not offer help?


17 posted on 03/14/2011 1:54:34 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: tsowellfan

NO reporting necessary.

Lots of reporting necessary. Very complicated things going on down there. Impossible for laymen to know exactly what we’re looking at.


18 posted on 03/14/2011 1:54:39 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Sorry Thursday is St. Patricks’ Day, and the Pres will be having green beer for the occasion. No time to help Japan.


19 posted on 03/14/2011 1:56:24 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder (I sure hope there is a New Morning in America soon. All this hope and change is leaving me depressed)
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To: Tolsti2
From the ‘experts’ on FR there’s no problem at all, so they shouldn’t need any help at all.

You ignorant person. Stop trying to spreading panic. This is the NORMAL way you cool a reactor. Everything is going EXACTLY according to plan.

20 posted on 03/14/2011 1:57:15 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: americanophile

So you think Obama should become more involved in this?

The situation would be made better by Obama involvement?

THIS is the time we should be praising his apathy and ineptness.

Stay out of it, Obama!


21 posted on 03/14/2011 1:57:23 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: americanophile

Ponder the irony of this for a moment...


22 posted on 03/14/2011 1:59:17 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: GonzoGOP

You fly in the experts from the U.S. that built that reactor; you get a sky crane and fly in generators to provide the ac power they need; you fly in back up pumps or new pumps to keep the water flowing; you provide filtration equipment to make sure you can keep clean water flowing to the reactors; you provide emergency power distribution towers if necessary; etc., etc. You don’t go golfing!


23 posted on 03/14/2011 1:59:55 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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To: KansasGirl
I can’t believe they had to ask. Did we not offer help?

That tells you everything you need to know about that POS in the Whitehouse.

24 posted on 03/14/2011 2:00:05 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I don't prep for the disaster. I prepare for the rebuilding.)
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To: americanophile

American experts have been consulting/helping since day one. This is another “sky is falling” article.


25 posted on 03/14/2011 2:00:15 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: DManA

“Lots of reporting necessary. Very complicated things going on down there. Impossible for laymen to know exactly what we’re looking at.

Good points.
Too many of us think we understand the complexities of nuclear power plants when in fact we don’t.
That includes the media..


26 posted on 03/14/2011 2:00:21 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: americanophile

This government under Obama is shameful. Why are the Japanese having to ASK for our help? We should have already offered anything necessary to the Japanese in their time of need.


27 posted on 03/14/2011 2:00:41 PM PDT by texteacher
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To: sionnsar
It is, and if it's met with indifference or dallying on our part it will be a tragedy.
28 posted on 03/14/2011 2:01:32 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

Listen Japan, Michelle has a garden party gala planned tonite. Your petty problems are of no concern to her.

Besides, it’s nuclear energy, the essence of all that is evil, so double no to you.


29 posted on 03/14/2011 2:02:01 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Well first of all, I read the article and nowhere does it say that the Japanese have asked for help from the U.S.

Now maybe they should or like you say, if they did, what the hell could America do?

Still and so, this is an example of Journalism run amok. The only person asking for U.S. help is some guy at the UN.

What they got to do, it ain’t rocket science, is cool down those fuel rods. The reactors did all “scramble” when the earthquake struck but the tsunami destroyed the pumps that would pump coolant in to stop the reaction.

I dunno, maybe America can get decent diesel generators in there to run those pumps...the Japanese are having a hell of a time, plugs don’t fit, they’ve no power to run the installed pumps.

Supposedly, SUPPOSEDLY, the reactors are fitted with a doomsday container that will, in the event of total meltdown, hold all the spent fuel and radioactive carcass stuff. At that point you say a prayer and bury it forever.

This is what happened on 3 Mile Island by the way.

If this is true, it will be an economic killer for Japan to lose all those reactors and will greatly slow their recovery from this. But it will not be a nuclear disaster.

And I’m no expert. But I can read, have pretty good reading comprehension, can wield a keyboard, know the language. I been reading up these past few days and it’s not all that difficult to understand.

They can’t get those fuel rods cool. At some point the fuel will be gone like a car runs out of gas. But what’s left will be dangerous stuff. Again, it will be contained if the Japanese are to be believed.


30 posted on 03/14/2011 2:02:50 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/2011/02/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: GonzoGOP

Just speculating I imagine they’re interested in input on minimizing post-emergency clean-up costs.
Our experience with Three Mile Island xould help on that.


31 posted on 03/14/2011 2:03:14 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: americanophile

better off to just try closing one eye...and f@rt


32 posted on 03/14/2011 2:03:34 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Fido969
You ignorant person. Stop trying to spreading panic. This is the NORMAL way you cool a reactor. Everything is going EXACTLY according to plan.

You're correct. I suggest you quit your job, grab the family and move to where the fallout will not effect you. There is no time....GO NOW!

33 posted on 03/14/2011 2:04:14 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: americanophile
It is, and if it's met with indifference or dallying on our part it will be a tragedy.

Then count on it.

Any way Obama can alienate another important ally, he will.

Guarenteed, nothing will be done by THIS White House.

34 posted on 03/14/2011 2:04:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (NPR is the ACORN of the media world.)
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To: DManA

Is uranium still fissioning there? I thought they had stopped it, but all these problems and multiple statements saying they’re not sure what’s happening are beginning to make me wonder. They would know if the fission chain reaction was still going on, from the neutron flux, right?


35 posted on 03/14/2011 2:05:19 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: GonzoGOP

The US military has logistics capacities beyond any other group on the planet, for starters.

Let’s say they needed a genset, ready-to-go, of the size they need. OK, one of the larger Fairbanks-Morse sets might run 100 metric tons.

Who can haul that around the world in a day? The USAF.

Did we have this stuff last week? Of course we did.

But as you’ve no doubt noticed from the events in the middle east: the world is now getting to see what a post-American world looks like. Now everyone gets to see what happens to the planet when “America sits this one out.” You get developments like France taking the lead on using military force Libya.

Think about that for a second: France is talking about using military force.

We’re still “pondering” whether no-fly zones are a good idea.

People and nations who used to rag on the US for “butting in” to other people’s business should be greatly relieved at how we’re hanging back and doing jack-all on these major international issues, right? That’s what they wanted. That’s why they hated Bush. That’s why they cheered when Obama won.

Elections have consequences, and this is one of them.


36 posted on 03/14/2011 2:05:45 PM PDT by NVDave
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Photobucket Obama, slow to respond.... Oh yea.. Japan isn't a muslim country. This is where the world should unite and help, because a nation, in a few days, will be pushed into starvation. look how calmly and united the Japanese people are handling this tragedy.... That could never happen here.
37 posted on 03/14/2011 2:07:27 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: americanophile

I am so embarrassed that the POTUS is teleprompting golfing and campaigning. PLEASE FORGIVE US JAPAN, our President is an idiot. Just call Harvard.


38 posted on 03/14/2011 2:07:55 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: ScreamingFist; Fido969
You ignorant person. Stop trying to spreading panic. This is the NORMAL way you cool a reactor. Everything is going EXACTLY according to plan.

You're correct. I suggest you quit your job, grab the family and move to where the fallout will not effect you. There is no time....GO NOW!

You silly laymen. Both of you are exactly right. Things are going according to plan, which means we need to panic and die, and cool the reactors with our families.

Then we can dance and revel and yell and cast fallout about, and the Elders will teach us new ways to dance and revel and yell and cast fallout about.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

39 posted on 03/14/2011 2:08:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz (NPR is the ACORN of the media world.)
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To: americanophile

Dear Japan, we are very sorry, but Obama is a very busy guy and he needs his relaxation time on the golf course. Besides, Obama likes to see how things turn out before acting.

Now, if you would like to speed this up, please announce how many black folks and how many American democrat voters live there, that could make a difference in Obama’s response.


40 posted on 03/14/2011 2:09:05 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: ScreamingFist
This is another “sky is falling” article.

Guess you missed the memo, for the Japanese the sky fell on to of them this past Friday followed by the Pacific Ocean...

41 posted on 03/14/2011 2:10:06 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: americanophile
It is, and if it's met with indifference or dallying on our part it will be a tragedy.

Obama is as eager to help as the rest of his Islamic brethren. He is waiting until the Saudi and Iranian rescue ships show up. All of those "foundation of civilization" people are the best to deal with a world in crisis.

42 posted on 03/14/2011 2:10:33 PM PDT by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Lazamataz

I heading to Antarctica....you in? I’ll pick you up on my way through Texas, plenty of room in my VW.


43 posted on 03/14/2011 2:10:53 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Tolsti2
From the ‘experts’ on FR there’s no problem at all, so they shouldn’t need any help at all.

It's pretty obvious by what you've been posting over the last couple of days, that you're bound and determined to remain as ignorant as possible about the technologies related to this incident.

That remark was condescending, and an insult to those responsible Freepers who have done a heroic job of informing us, and demystifying the processes involved with this tragedy.

If you insist upon having your own personal meltdown over this incident, go right ahead, but keep it to yourself.

44 posted on 03/14/2011 2:10:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: americanophile
It is, and if it's met with indifference or dallying on our part it will be a tragedy.

On many levels!

45 posted on 03/14/2011 2:11:11 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: Red Badger

Entombment. Sand and concrete. Gotta get on it now before you lose the containments.


46 posted on 03/14/2011 2:11:17 PM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Are you better off than you were four years ago?")
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To: americanophile

if it melts into the earth, it’s “our” fault
whether we send technical help or not
That is the spin that’s being developed

Bambi doesnt care either way
If it melts he can go to the UN and demand a nuclear-free world and burnish his messiah halo even more


47 posted on 03/14/2011 2:11:35 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Lazamataz

Not a problem. I collect medieval weapons and artifacts. I’ve studied the cultures and lifestyles of those ages.

If we went back to the year 1450 I’d do just fine.


48 posted on 03/14/2011 2:12:13 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: americanophile
I've been thinking of one thing they might try as a last resort. It may be worse than just letting the the meltdown occur and dumping sand, boron, and lead on the reactor after burn through. It may even be performed after the meltdown, just to give the catch basins a chance work.

I am thinking it might be possible to bomb the reactor, or use a cruise missile, or even previously placed explosive package that would in essence blow out the reaction by scattering the fuel to a point whereby a reaction couldn't continue.

It would be messy around the general location, but would prevent large area (nationwide/worldwide) contamination and allow the possibile of future cleanup using remotely operate robots.

If they do this, they'd have to take out every reactor that isn't able to be safety shut down for an extended period.

49 posted on 03/14/2011 2:12:32 PM PDT by Errant
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To: humblegunner

I would rather see Homer Simpson take charge. At least he worked at a nuclear power plant.


50 posted on 03/14/2011 2:12:50 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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