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Iconic F-111s to be sold as scrap
Brisbane Courier-Mail ^ | 14th March 2011 | Ian McPhedran

Posted on 03/13/2011 4:24:51 PM PDT by naturalman1975

PUBLIC aviation museums have been virtually banned from acquiring any of the RAAF's retired F-111 strike jets.

The iconic planes, that never fired a shot in anger but spent years entertaining crowds with their spectacular dump-and-burn routines, will only be displayed at secure RAAF bases and inside RAAF museums due to cost, red tape and asbestos concerns.

Five of the 34 jets will be preserved as museum pieces at bases at Amberley, west of Brisbane, Point Cook in Victoria and at Edinburgh, South Australia.

Three more could be preserved for ``defence heritage'' and two may be given to a US Air Force museum. The remaining planes will be scrapped and sold as lumps of metal.

It is understood one was offered to the Australian War Memorial in Canberra but it declined due to the $1 million or more cost to ``demilitarise'' the aircraft.

The Defence Department said providing aircraft to public or private museums would require US Government approval and the removal of all asbestos.

The recipient would have to pay remediation, demilitarisation and placement costs, which could amount to several million dollars, putting them out of the reach of museums such as the Sunshine Coast's Queensland Air Museum at Caloundra airport.

Museum vice-president Ron Cuskelly said the Defence Department had created a ``smoke screen'' to prevent the aircraft from being displayed at non-military museums.

Queensland Air Museum already has a Canberra bomber, two Meteor bombers, a Vampire, a Sabre and a Sea Venom, two Hunters and one Sea Vixen in its military collection.

``We have never been given anything by the military or the government who would rather see them scrapped than displayed for the public to see and touch,'' Mr Cuskelly said.

(Excerpt) Read more at couriermail.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aerospace
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1 posted on 03/13/2011 4:24:54 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Replaced by cruise missiles.


2 posted on 03/13/2011 4:30:55 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: naturalman1975

WTF?

F-111s flew in VIET-FRIGGING-NAM !!!

Am I nuts on this?


3 posted on 03/13/2011 4:31:46 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: naturalman1975
The F-111 was unique in that it's fuel dump nozzle was nestled between the TF30 afterburners. This was a feature of all F-111s, but as far as I know only the RAAF did the infamous "dump and burn" at airshows.


4 posted on 03/13/2011 4:33:12 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: naturalman1975
Who cares about asbestos on a plane being displayed? How are people going to come in contact with it? This is stupid and more examples of how illogical Big Gov't is. With such a small number of these planes they should all be displayed.


5 posted on 03/13/2011 4:33:14 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I believe that when they say that the F-111s never fired a shot in anger, they're speaking of these specific F-111s.
6 posted on 03/13/2011 4:34:43 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: screaminsunshine
Replaced by cruise missiles.

Replaced temporarily by F/A-18Fs, eventually to be replaced permanently by F-35As.

Neither aircraft can duplicate the F-111C's payload and range, however. The closest one can come to replacing the F-111C is with the F-15E Strike Eagle, which is what the USAF did.

7 posted on 03/13/2011 4:35:52 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Abin Sur

I thought the RAAF bought them used?


8 posted on 03/13/2011 4:38:15 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
The RAAF F-111's are mostly planes built in the late 1960's to early 1970's. They are still flying because of parts salvaged from retired USAF airframes.

I am surprised that the RAAF didn't buy the F- 15E, the plane that replaced the F-111 in USAF service.

9 posted on 03/13/2011 4:40:10 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I thought the RAAF bought them used?

No, they were ordered by Australia as the F-111C variant, which went into service in 1973 (they actually received them in 1968, but there were technical problems which delayed their acceptance into service).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-111C

10 posted on 03/13/2011 4:46:10 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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F-111s flew in VIET-FRIGGING-NAM !!!

They also bombed Libya and Iraq, and were some of the first combat aircraft into Saudi Arabia after Iraq invaded Kuwait.

11 posted on 03/13/2011 4:46:21 PM PDT by jimtorr
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I thought the RAAF bought them used?

The RAAF bought F-111Cs brand new off the General Dynamics showroom floor in 1963. Development problems and minor issues such as the wings falling off of USAF F-111As delayed delivery until 1973, flying F-4s as interim aircraft.

After the USAF retired the FB-111A/F-111G (SAC strategic bombers later given to TAC and redesignated F-111G,) the RAAF bought some of those as used.

But the F-111C was and is exclusive to the RAAF.

12 posted on 03/13/2011 4:47:11 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Abin Sur

Thanks.

Still love the Aardvark.
Hell of an aircraft, whose era was fleetingly brief.


13 posted on 03/13/2011 4:47:41 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: naturalman1975
The USAF museum has one.

In the spring of 1968 the USAF operationally tested the F-111A in Southeast Asia with mixed success. In 1972, after correcting early problems, the USAF returned the F-111A to Southeast Asia for Operation Linebacker II, where it conducted very effective night strikes against North Vietnamese targets. The F-111A on display is marked as it appeared in 1972-1973 when assigned to the 474th Tactical Fighter Wing during Linebacker II.
14 posted on 03/13/2011 4:49:32 PM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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...they're speaking of these specific F-111s

Yes, that must be it. In 1986, we launched a raid against Libya that included several F-111s. IIRC, it brought the Mister Gadaffi in line for a long time.

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15 posted on 03/13/2011 4:54:37 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Army Air Corps

ping


16 posted on 03/13/2011 4:56:28 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SJSAMPLE
F-111s flew in VIET-FRIGGING-NAM !!!

Not Australian F-111s. The RAAF flew Canberras in Vietnam.

17 posted on 03/13/2011 4:56:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: naturalman1975

“The iconic planes, that never fired a shot in anger “

Ours have:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Libya


18 posted on 03/13/2011 4:57:50 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: naturalman1975

To the memories of Air Force Captains Fernando L. Ribas-Dominicci and Paul F. Lorence, downed in action against Libya, 1986.

RIP


19 posted on 03/13/2011 4:58:22 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Abin Sur
I believe that when they say that the F-111s never fired a shot in anger, they're speaking of these specific F-111s.

The F-111 had a similar role to the A-20 in WWII. I doubt you'll find any pilots who had anything but praise for either.

20 posted on 03/13/2011 4:58:50 PM PDT by Big Bronson
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