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To: WellyP

I relate to that SO much. I’m the same way. And at first I was very angry about this article too. Then I started thinking about how I’ve had 2 years to process all this and I STILL can’t believe this can be real, even though I know it is. It just takes some time. I’m digging through some things that somebody else is presenting to me and I’m so cautious about it to make sure I’m not missing anything I should have caught. So it takes some time.

The fact that she mentioned that I had cited legal sources saying NBC is someone born on US soil to 2 US citizens is a step in the right direction, and as somebody point out to me, she was not overtly disrespectful of me or my views. If we can get the media to actually engage with the content rather than with the Alinsky-type stuff that’s heading the right direction at least.


17 posted on 03/11/2011 6:48:36 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

This article is a minor improvement over the regular schlock that gets posted about the eligibility issue. Did you attend the hearing?


21 posted on 03/11/2011 10:45:38 PM PST by edge919
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To: butterdezillion
The fact that she mentioned that I had cited legal sources saying NBC is someone born on US soil to 2 US citizens is a step in the right direction

Please provide links.

Are the legal sources obscure 18th century legal dictionaries?

It strikes me that the term has never been defined in American law, nor in case law, so essentially you have an interpretation - based on "original intent". And as we know many of the most learned legal scholars and high ranking judges believe that original intent is only one of many factors one uses to interpret the law, along with current community standards, evolution of our understanding of justice, penumbras and emmanations, European and Native American legal traditions and other factors.

So, it's asking a lot for people to toss out a sitting President (or forbid him from running again) based on this hard adherence to a defintion.

After all we violate huge swaths of the Constitution every day: Social Security is clealy unconstitutional based on the Founders Intent. So is Foreign Aid. So is maintaining a standing Army.

Do you favor abolishment of the standing Army?

Most conservatives, and even many birthers are not ever consistent, so it does start to look like an obsession with one facet of a stone with thousands of facets on it.

As the key or demonstration issue I believe it is a very weak one.

23 posted on 03/12/2011 10:28:49 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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