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Is Obama a war criminal yet?Liberal double-standard is in full view over Gitmo(Bush Yes,Obama No)
wash times ^ | 3/8/11

Posted on 03/09/2011 8:32:50 AM PST by bestintxas

President Obama quietly signed an executive order on Monday instituting a system for indefinitely holding terrorist detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo), Cuba. The administration also announced that terrorist trials by military commission would recommence. This is a win for U.S. security, but the country has paid a heavy price for Mr. Obama’s on-the-job training in counterterrorism.

The low-key announcements stand in marked contrast with the bombast with which Mr. Obama approached this issue just a few years ago. During the 2008 presidential campaign, then-Sen. Barack Obama harshly criticized President George W. Bush’s detainee policies. When he took office, Mr. Obama theatrically announced that he would close Gitmo in a year and find a way to give the terror detainees the full due-process rights enjoyed by American citizens. In so doing, he legitimized the complaints of the worst critics of American counterterrorism policies, including the terrorists themselves.

Two years later, some learning appears to have occurred at the White House. The president’s hasty “close Gitmo” pledge foundered on practical and political grounds. Contrary to the story line peddled by anti-war alarmists, the Bush administration already had released most of the detainees that had been held there, and those who remained were the hard cases who truly threatened U.S. national security. Trying the detainees in civilian courts raised a multitude of nettlesome questions about public evidence, speedy trials, Miranda warnings and the other aspects of due process that didn’t support the Bush administration’s warfighting approach.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bdsoneverythread; bdsruinedfr; bushvsusurper; damnbdsers; democrats; demonratslie; enufwiththebds; gitmo; guantanamo; guantanamobay; liberals; obama; obamalies; omgstopthebds; presidentbush; presidentgeorgewbush; sickofthebds
Therre will be reckoning for this President and it cannot come to soon.
1 posted on 03/09/2011 8:32:54 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

Any totalitarian is a criminal to “free people”. The Totalitarian-in-Chief, his sycophants, anti-individual collectives, and enablers wage asymmetric low-simmer war on freedom-loving individuals every day.

Witness history.


2 posted on 03/09/2011 8:42:23 AM PST by PGalt
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To: bestintxas

I do not know if obama is a war criminal, but that he is a punk and a traitor is without doubt.


3 posted on 03/09/2011 8:44:21 AM PST by Fantomw
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To: bestintxas
A reckoning for Obama AND Bush who prepared the way for Obama..
The Civil War has just begun..
4 posted on 03/09/2011 8:45:59 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: bestintxas

Hopefully the press will pay a price too.


5 posted on 03/09/2011 8:55:15 AM PST by steelwheels
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To: bestintxas
How can you hold a criminal after they have been acquitted. If you are trying them for being illegal combatants or committing terrorist activity, and they are found not guilty. Should you not be required to free them?
Now if they are prisoners of war I can understand holding them until the war is concluded, even if that war has an indefinite ending.
We have a convoluted idea of how we are to fight this conflict, if the conflict can not be appropriately con strewed then should we be fighting it? The current administration and partially the previous administration seem incapable of defining who the enemy is. Terrorism is a tactic, not a enemy. We should publicly define our enemy, or get out of the war, that is clearly bankrupting our people.
Now before I'm flamed, for being some pantie waist pacifist, let me say that I supported killing alkida, anywhere they exist, but not for evading a sovereign country to rebuild and try to create a friendly government. I think it would be nice to be liked but I prefer to be feared and respected, not just because we can destroy you but because our potential enemies know that as long as they don't test our interests they have nothing to fear from us.
6 posted on 03/09/2011 8:59:01 AM PST by qman
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To: hosepipe

obama would have to lose by at least 15% to cover the voter fraud and voter intimidation by the unions and the black panthers. I used to say 10% but it’s gotten worse.

And bush could have done something about this. I’ll always believe he and mccain and all the gop elite were in on this scam of the American people.


7 posted on 03/09/2011 8:59:25 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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I won’t flame you. w could have taken enough of Iraq’s oil to pay our costs. He could have said “Islam is our enemy”. Instead he said “Islam is a religion of peace.” If that’s true then who the hell are we fighing?

When this started I told my wife “We’ll never win this war because we’re not willing to do what will need to be done to win it.”


8 posted on 03/09/2011 9:02:18 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: bestintxas

What nobody is paying attention to is the other thing Obama announced when he announced that Gitmo will stay open: He dclared that he was going to seek the ratification of Protocol 1, an amendment to the Geneva Convention that essentially gives terrorists (that is, non-uniformed, non-state combattants) the status of military prisoners of war. This has been opposed by every President from Reagan onwards, although it’s long been a favorite cause of the left and the anti-war crowd.

If this is the case, these people would then become POWs with all the according protections and privileges, and this would affect their trial, too. So this issue is by no means resolved just because Gitmo is staying open.


9 posted on 03/09/2011 9:38:17 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
Thanks, I'd missed that one.

PS: is there an address for transcript?

10 posted on 03/09/2011 10:00:42 AM PST by norton
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To: Terry Mross

I agree we should have helped ourselves to the oil in Iraq, in addition President Bush should have put in an Executive Order to start our own drilling. If that could have been done.


11 posted on 03/09/2011 10:06:53 AM PST by angcat
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12 posted on 03/11/2011 7:47:21 AM PST by KeyLargo
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