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USS Monterey deploys for European missile defense
Associated Press via Yahoo News ^ | 7 March, 2011 | BROCK VERGAKIS

Posted on 03/08/2011 4:21:31 AM PST by Errant

NORFOLK, Va. – A warship capable of detecting and shooting down ballistic missiles headed for the Mediterranean Sea on Monday as the U.S. started implementing its plan to protect Europe from a potential Iranian nuclear threat.

Sending the Norfolk-based USS Monterey to Europe is the first part of a four-phase plan to create a missile shield for the continent that was developed by the Obama administration in 2009 and approved by NATO in November.

The plan calls for placing land- and sea-based radars and interceptors in several European locations over the next decade and has drawn opposition from Russia, which worries the system could target Russian warheads or undermine their deterrence strategy.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defense; iran; missle; monterey
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If we're sending ships and men, it seems to me, Iran has or is close to fielding nuclear missles ...
1 posted on 03/08/2011 4:21:34 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

More likely an early phase of Obama’s re-election campaign.


2 posted on 03/08/2011 4:23:21 AM PST by Redleg Duke (I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
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To: Redleg Duke
“the first part of a four-phase plan to create a missile shield for the continent that was developed by the Obama administration in 2009 and approved by NATO in November.”

Excuse me? The only thing the Obama did was to derail “the plan” that was already in place, kowtow to our enemies, and hang several former soviet potential allies out to dry.

3 posted on 03/08/2011 4:28:40 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

and on that point about his derailing the plan already in place, you would be 100 correct.

BTW, those ageis ships were designed to defend our fleets, not a point defense. If jackass ears had thought that through, he should not have defunded the point defenses negotiated by Bush for Poland. So, this is a nothing more than a “what the hell can we do moment” and someone come up with this plan. Since this ship is not going to be at sea for years on end, it is not an efficient resource use either IMO.


4 posted on 03/08/2011 4:45:59 AM PST by Mouton (Government expands to fill any voids in freedom.)
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To: Errant
Sending the Norfolk-based USS Monterey to Europe is the first part of a four-phase plan to create a missile shield for the continent that was developed by the Obama administration in 2009 and approved by NATO in November.

Smoke and mirrors.

5 posted on 03/08/2011 5:09:13 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: houeto

But .....but .....but our USofN is THE Global Force for Good! Right??


6 posted on 03/08/2011 5:43:08 AM PST by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Errant

“the U.S. started implementing its plan to protect Europe from a potential Iranian nuclear threat.”

Are we receiving payments from Europe to defray our costs for protecting them?


7 posted on 03/08/2011 5:47:26 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Don’t forget the gratitude of France...


8 posted on 03/08/2011 5:51:09 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Errant
She's a beauty.


9 posted on 03/08/2011 5:51:35 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Errant
A warship capable of detecting and shooting down ballistic missiles headed for the Mediterranean Sea on Monday as the U.S. started implementing its plan to protect Europe from a potential Iranian nuclear threat.

And Europe cannot defend itself from a potential Iranian nuclear missile threat beacause....?

10 posted on 03/08/2011 5:54:25 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: tgusa
But .....but .....but our USofN is THE Global Force for Good! Right??

With a descent CinC it is.

11 posted on 03/08/2011 6:11:38 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: Mouton
BTW, those ageis ships were designed to defend our fleets, not a point defense.

Joint Japan-U.S. Missile Defense Flight Test Successful

The JFTM-4 test event verified the newest engagement capability of the Japan Aegis BMD configuration of the recently upgraded Japanese destroyer, JS KIRISHIMA. At approximately 5:06 p.m. (HST), 12:06 p.m. Tokyo time on Oct. 29, 2010, a separating 1,000 km class ballistic missile target was launched from the Pacific Missile Range Facility at Barking Sands, Kauai, Hawaii.

JS KIRISHIMA crew members detected and tracked the target. The Aegis Weapon System then developed a fire control solution and launched a Standard Missile -3 (SM-3) Block IA missile. Approximately three minutes later, the SM-3 successfully intercepted the target approximately 100 miles above the Pacific Ocean. JFTM-4 is a significant milestone in the growing cooperation between Japan and the U.S. in the area of missile defense.


12 posted on 03/08/2011 6:27:43 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Rummyfan

Yeah, she really is a beauty. Have to admit though, I thought she was an Arleigh Burke at first. Is she a Block II or a Block III Tico? I don’t have an up to date Janes’ so I have no idea now what have become of the CGNs.


13 posted on 03/08/2011 6:34:18 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: K-Stater
And Europe cannot defend itself from a potential Iranian nuclear missile threat beacause....?

Good question. I like our European allies, certainly don't want to see them nuked by Iran. However, as I understood it, the big radar and GBIs former President Bush was planning on putting in Europe would have also defended us (the US), against the developing Iranian ICBM threat.

For my own reasons I'm admittedly a big fan of the AEGIS weapons system and the SM-3. Maybe it's just the idea of going literally from sea level to space that tickles my fancy. Heck, I may even buy a little Raytheon stock (maker of the SM-3) if obama continues to pursue this strategy. Anyway, great missile, big plans for it. Fine. But it is not as big nor as capable as the GBIs - that would've defended us too. When it comes to missiles, size matters. Bigger means more fuel, more total impulse, and better speed, altitude and range. That translates into a bigger engagement envelop, and a higher probability of kill against any given threat. ICBMs by definition fly faster and higher than regional theater threats. That makes them a tougher intercept.

Ok, I admit I do like the idea of more shots - more SM-3s as compared to the number of GBIs they were looking at. Hmm, maybe I will buy that Raytheon stock... ;-)

14 posted on 03/08/2011 6:37:45 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: houeto

The Global Force for Good could be the Global Force for Freedom (of the Seas) if it went back to its roots and started exterminating the scourge of piracy. Just sayin’. Yes, it’s a CinC problem.


15 posted on 03/08/2011 6:41:23 AM PST by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Good question. I like our European allies, certainly don't want to see them nuked by Iran. However, as I understood it, the big radar and GBIs former President Bush was planning on putting in Europe would have also defended us (the US), against the developing Iranian ICBM threat.

Iran does not have an ICBM that can reach the U.S., and likely will never have one.

16 posted on 03/08/2011 7:34:15 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: ThunderSleeps

How big of a difference was there between the SM-3 and the GBIs? If the SM-3 can reach from sea level to space, how much farther can a GBI reach?


17 posted on 03/08/2011 7:34:26 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: paladin1_dcs; ThunderSleeps

Actually, on second thought, don’t answer that if it’s going to be an OpSec issue. I just didn’t understand how much higher you can go than “Sea level to Space”.


18 posted on 03/08/2011 7:40:23 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: paladin1_dcs

Regardless of the performance issues and security issues, it is rather obvious that the capability of our sea based platforms to detect, engage and destroy these types of threats is good enough to establish a presense to take care of these contingencies...

Its a good role for these ships...I just hope they are not standing wtch alone...Someone should be watching their back, while they watch the skies...And I am sure that is being taken care of as well...Better be...


19 posted on 03/08/2011 8:12:43 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: K-Stater
Iran does not have an ICBM that can reach the U.S., and likely will never have one.

Technically, they have one now. They've lofted a small satellite into low earth orbit. Therefore their missile system has the range to reach the US. Granted, it was a very lightweight payload. I've seen estimates on the web that the satellite was on the order of 50 to 60 lbs. A warhead would be significantly heavier, but then, it doesn't have to achieve orbital velocity either.

Iran continues to improve their missiles, extend their capability. A vehicle that can put a heavier satellite into LEO can easily deliver an even heavier warhead on a ballistic trajectory at ICBM ranges... Make no mistake, they want the capability to strike at their perceived enemies - all of them, including us.

I for one would rather not sit here defenseless in the face of a growing threat. We've put a lot of money into missile defense. Seen some successes, and a few misses. I say lets finish what we've started, and deploy the systems.

20 posted on 03/08/2011 8:42:12 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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