[Mrs. Don-o]

Dr. Mohler, as always, makes some excellent points. They gay refvolution has been brought upon us by:

• the strong "progressivist" bias ("the latest thing" has GOT to be better than the "old" things that civilizations always thought were important, simply becauze it's "the latest thing";
• radical individualism, to the point of "I don't have to be a male or a female, a mammal, a vertebrate, a creation of God; I'm my own creation, play-doh in my own hands"
• moral autonomy: "I am my own law: there is no other."

But I'm surprised he didn't mention the complete redefinition of sex which came through contraception: the fact that the dominant culture (which is a heterosexual culture) doesn't think there's any particular connection between sexual intercourse and procreation.

Contraception has convinced this glittering but collapsing culture that sex is basically about (1) a stimulating sport, or at best it's about (2) people in love --- the two sexes (at the very least, two; at the very most, two) and the 1,000 generations comprising the unbroken chain of your ancestors and your descendants.

Contraception leads to both abortion and homosexual "norming": the first, because contraception convinces people that pregnancy is a freakish thing to happen as a result of intercourse, and one has a right to dispose of freakish things; and homosexual "norming," because homosexual are doing exactly what contracepting heteros are doing: re-defining sex to suit their coupling preferences.,

You wouldn't in a million years have an absurd re-definition of marriage, if you hadn't antecedently had an absurd re-definition of sex.

And tt was the straights who did that, not the gays.

[Albion Wilde]

Contraception leads to both abortion and homosexual "norming": ...contraception convinces people that pregnancy is a freakish thing to happen as a result of intercourse, and one has a right to dispose of freakish things;
...homosexual are doing exactly what contracepting heteros are doing: re-defining sex to suit their coupling preferences. You wouldn't in a million years have an absurd re-definition of marriage, if you hadn't antecedently had an absurd re-definition of sex.

BINGO.

[adeline]

ITA 100%

And I think it was done methodically.

I blame feminism in part. Who was it that said get rid of sex roles and move towards androgyny? That babies are bad and women should focus on careers like a man would? Pushed abortion? Who did that? That men and women are interchangeable? If men and women are interchangeable, what’s the big deal about two men or two women marrying each other and starting a family?

And who talks about the horrors of body complementarity (that is, of having different male or female bodies)? Who complained that marriage was preventing female solidarity???

And don’t forget feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice.

O and if I’m not mistaken, feminism went along with gay rights in Germany around the time of Magnus Hirschfield & friends.