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"Birther Bill Losing Supporters"
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 3/3/11 | April Hunt

Posted on 03/03/2011 7:19:13 PM PST by jamese777

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To: Munz; Fantasywriter
The RINO brigade, as personified by John Boehner, has been at the trough for years and simply does not realize that they could become great patriots in the same vein as the Founders, or just as easily become something rather like the lickspittles, toadies and fawns who surrounded the last Emperor of Byzantium. BTW, they were eunuchs.

The RINO power structure is having a massive failure of imagination ... and patriotism. We all recognize it. But what do we do about it? There is no Program, no Plan, no Leadership to implement it, and No Clue. Instead we have Boehner and two-week budgets.

81 posted on 03/04/2011 5:43:27 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Odd, but I never had to ask, "Who, or what exactly is Dwight Eisenhower?")
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To: Kenny Bunk; Munz

Everything happens for a reason. If Boehner were a gun-ho conservative crusader, yes, that would be good. At the same time, ironically, it would relieve a bit of the pressure that is building up on the forces of the TEA party. As it is, Boehner is like a slow flow of gasoline on the TEA party. Unintentionally, he is stoking the flames. When the TEAnami of 2012 hits the voting booths, the DC old guard will finally realize we mean business.


82 posted on 03/04/2011 5:51:12 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Kenny Bunk

It is astounding the long list of Americans who have no interest what so ever, in knowing if Barry Soetoro is a usurper or not.

I know he is through dual citizenship, and until a real long form is available (if there is one) for viewing, I’ll assume he’s hiding something on that too.

Ever since 2008, I’ve been researching Barry Soetoro. He’s GOS “Guilty Of Something”.

(preaching to the choir, I know)

PS- Boehner is a doofus. I hate men who weep like women in public (I am a woman and I wouldn’t do that!)


83 posted on 03/04/2011 6:33:56 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (POTUS 45 Sarah Palin....Resistance is futile! Prepare to be liberated!)
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To: jamese777; McGruff
Don’t try to kill the messenger.

YOU have NEVER been a messenger, except you are a FINO possum!!!

84 posted on 03/04/2011 6:35:03 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: omegadawn

now,now jamese777, you know that a couple off state judges can not overturn the Constitution. Also when has any court declared that obama was even born in Hawaii? There is a big difference in obama claiming that he was born in hawaii and actually providing proof?


There is no need for Obama to prove his eligibility in any Court. The state of Hawaii has confirmed his birth in that state through its Governor, its Director of Health and its Registrar of Vital Statistics and Obama had to submit and in some states actually sign official documents in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia attesting to his eligibility to be on each states’ ballot. Not one of the 50 states has challenged his eligibility.
Here’s a link to what Obama signed to get on the ballot in his opponent’s home state of Arizona:
http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf

Additionally there was that US District Court Judge down in Georgia who said: “This Court observes that the President defeated seven opponents in a grueling campaign for his party’s nomination that lasted more than eighteen months and cost those opponents well over $300 million. Then the President faced a formidible opponent in the general election who received $84 million to conduct his general election campaign against the President. It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office he sought.
Furthermore Congress is apparently satisfied that the President is qualified to serve. Congress has not initiated impeachment proceedings, and in fact, the House of Representatives in a broad bipartisan manner has rejected the suggestion that the President is not eligible for office. See H.R. Res. 593 111th Congress. (2009) (commemorating, by a vote of 378-0 the 50th Anniversay of Hawaii statehood and stating, “the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.
A spurious claim questioning the President’s eligibility may be protected by the First Amendment, but for a Court to place its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”
US District Court Judge Clay R. Land in Rhodes v MacDonald.

And then, when Orly Taitz tried to bring a quo warranto claim against Obama on the grounds that he is not a natural born citizen, Chief US District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth of the US District Court for the District of Columbia said: “This is one of several such lawsuits brought by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen, as is required by the Constitution. THIS COURT IS NOT WILLING TO GO TILTING AT WINDMILLS WITH HER.”—Taitz v Obama, Quo Warranto.

And then there was US District Court Judge James Robertson who said in ruling on Hollister v Soetoro:
“This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve
mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do. Even in its relatively short life the case has excited the blogosphere and the conspiracy theorists. The right thing to do is to bring it to an early end.”
“The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force
colonel who continues to owe fealty to his Commander-in-Chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven — to the colonel’s satisfaction — that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be President. The issue of the President’s citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama’s two-year-campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court.”

In 12 appeals at the Supreme Court of the United States, the Justices have refused to even hear an Obama eligibility appeal.


85 posted on 03/04/2011 6:54:03 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

More lawmakers back away from ‘birther’ bill
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/more-lawmakers-back-away-860832.html

Six more lawmakers on Friday removed their names from a “birther” bill making its way in the Georgia House.

Support for Rep. Mark Hatfield’s ‘birther’ bill waned in the Georgia House of Representatives on Thursday after a majority indicated they would support it a few days ago.

That brings the total number of co-sponsors who have dropped their support to 28, leaving House Bill 401 with 65 backers, all of them Republicans.


86 posted on 03/04/2011 7:08:59 PM PST by jamese777
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To: danamco

YOU have NEVER been a messenger, except you are a FINO possum!!!


OK. If you say so, then it MUST be true!
“FINO possum,” out!


87 posted on 03/04/2011 7:18:24 PM PST by jamese777
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To: TheConservativeParty
The long list of Americans
who have no interest whatsoever,
in knowing whether or not
Barry Soetoro is a usurper,
is astounding.

88 posted on 03/04/2011 7:22:24 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Odd, but I never had to ask, "Who, or what exactly is Dwight Eisenhower?")
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To: Kenny Bunk

Your comments are among the best on FR.


89 posted on 03/04/2011 8:04:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Candor7
The RINO brigade, as personified by John Boehner, has been at the trough for years and simply does not realize that they could become great patriots in the same vein as the Founders, or just as easily become something rather like the lickspittles, toadies and fawns who surrounded the last Emperor of Byzantium.

Well said.

90 posted on 03/04/2011 8:05:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The Fact Check ‘Short Form’ Hawaiian birth certificate was FORGED by a certain Chanise Foxx at an office supply store in Kenwood, Illinois.

‘I helped Obama campaign staffer Divorah Adler create a fake birth certificate for use in the famous Fact Check story to prove to the world of Obama’s birth in the 2008 election. Divorah approached me in early 2007 and held onto the birth certificate until she released it in August 2008.

As I have been making fake ID’s part-time for local college students for about eight years now, faking a birth certificate was actually quite easy. Our first step was to get our hands on someone else’s birth certificate from Hawaii. We then created the stationary to match.

Next, we had to create an embossed stamp and rubber signature stamp for Hawaiian officials. With the help of a high-resolution scanner at the store, I did most of my work at night when the place was vacant.’

From wikipedia:

Devorah Adler is a political consultant and opposition research specialist for the Democratic National Committee in the United States. A former Assistant Director for Health Policy during the Bill Clinton presidency, Adler later served as Director of Research for the Democratic National Committee in the 2006 election cycle, and served as Director of Research for the Barack Obama campaign for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

Adler was one of the Obama 2008 campaign’s first hires in January 2007, assigned to debunk a widely circulated anonymous set of e-mails that rumored Obama was a Muslim. Interviewed at the time by Politico.com, Adler said, ‘We’ve been bird-dogging it from the beginning; the first research document that I put together was a response to the ‘Who is Barack Obama? e-mail.’


91 posted on 03/04/2011 9:10:55 PM PST by bigoil
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To: bigoil

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2457491/posts?page=2824#2824


92 posted on 03/04/2011 9:23:11 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: bigoil

93 posted on 03/04/2011 9:57:31 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Kenny Bunk; Fantasywriter

I have no response. I am so upset over what I am reading now about the middle east and the inability of our leadership to call it what it is. Allowing it to spill over here .. I am just besides myself.

I understand that you two are really dissappointed with Boehnner, but when states Like Georgia make a move like this thread is headlined, I really don’t expect the Republicans to take a national stand.

they backed down on a state level according to this report. Why WOULD the GOP stick their necks out? They are already being falsely blamed for the impending government shut down which isn’t even a shut down. They are blamed for everything whether they have anything to do with it or not.

We cant even get a consensus here on FR about being “birthers”. I am sure that they believe that they would be laughed out of the congress over it.

As far as what plan or blueprint do we have .. I am just supporting a few causes at this point. I don’t see any way that we can get out of the mess that we are in at this point. If we had a strong conservative President, Senate super majority, Congressional super majority and the will of the people to back down the fed, start drilling immediately everywhere we could I would have a glimmer of hope that we could survive until 2012.

But as it stands, I don;t think there is anything left to do that will really alter the course of events that have been set up and are just finally coming into a clear view for some of us.


94 posted on 03/04/2011 11:23:54 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: bigoil

>The Fact Check ‘Short Form’ Hawaiian birth certificate was FORGED by a certain Chanise Foxx at an office supply store in Kenwood, Illinois.

‘I helped Obama campaign staffer Divorah Adler create a fake birth certificate for use in the famous Fact Check story to prove to the world of Obama’s birth in the 2008 election. Divorah approached me in early 2007 and held onto the birth certificate until she released it in August 2008.

As I have been making fake ID’s part-time for local college students for about eight years now, faking a birth certificate was actually quite easy. Our first step was to get our hands on someone else’s birth certificate from Hawaii. We then created the stationary to match.

Next, we had to create an embossed stamp and rubber signature stamp for Hawaiian officials. With the help of a high-resolution scanner at the store, I did most of my work at night when the place was vacant.’<

Where did this come from???


95 posted on 03/04/2011 11:26:07 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz; bigoil
Next, we had to create an embossed stamp and rubber signature stamp for Hawaiian officials. With the help of a high-resolution scanner at the store, I did most of my work at night when the place was vacant.’<

The "seal" on the fake COLB is embossed, it is not the genuine raised seal on official Hawaiian COLBs and BCs. Any stationery store can order a custom embosser and many places still create custom rubber stamps. Whoever did so had to have known they were complicit in fraud.

96 posted on 03/04/2011 11:34:58 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I have no doubt that it was a forgery. I read an affidavit sworn to by two guys who worked for federal agencies for over 25 years each. They examined the colb and said flat out it was a forgery.

I just want to know where the statement that was apparently copied from was found.


97 posted on 03/04/2011 11:46:05 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz; Fantasywriter
This is a truly bizarre situation to observe from outside of Georgia.

Get this. There are Two (2) Eligibility Bills floating around the statehouse. The legislators backing off the one, may be jumping on the bandwagon for the other. In order to reconcile the differences between the bills, one of which was drafted by a Democrat (!), a committee has been formed. (Well, that'll kill it ... for a good long while anyway.) The AJC is gloating about the boys backing off the one, but they don't mention them jumping on board the other. I actually learned that from another poster on this thread.

The Port Authority of Savannah has lobbied against the measures ... probably because they would lose a chunk of stimulus cash if the state crosses the régime. (IMHO ONLY) Other legislators fear "racial unrest" in their districts if this gets passed. So, cooling feet all around.

I owe Fantasywriter drinks all around when the first state eligibility law is passed. With this sort of parliamentary chicanery, the moths in my wallet may NEVER see the light of day.

98 posted on 03/04/2011 11:55:44 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Odd, but I never had to ask, "Who, or what exactly is Dwight Eisenhower?")
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To: TheConservativeParty
Boehner is a doofus. I hate men who weep like women in public (I am a woman and I wouldn’t do that!)

I wouldn't mind John's incessant weeping if he were more like the women I have known. A couple of them had a pretty good punch while they were weeping!

99 posted on 03/05/2011 12:00:34 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Odd, but I never had to ask, "Who, or what exactly is Dwight Eisenhower?")
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To: TheConservativeParty

If he is passionately crying while kicking socialists in the nuts, I have no problem.


100 posted on 03/05/2011 12:05:08 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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