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(remember the Clinton legacy) The Utah Coal Lockup: A trillion dollar Lippo payoff?
apfn.org ^ | 2/2011 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 02/26/2011 7:12:10 AM PST by doug from upland

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To: FightThePower!; doug from upland

***The coal is still there. If we ever need it bad enough, we can still get it.***

Years ago, in Tulsa, OK there was an attempt by a coal company to get permission to mine coal from an area that was going to be used for residental housing, befor ethe houses were built.
They were refused and the houses were built over the recoverable coal deposit basicly locking the coal up for generations.


21 posted on 02/26/2011 8:10:33 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: doug from upland
This happened almost 9 years ago.

ANd was obvious even then.

22 posted on 02/26/2011 8:16:48 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: iopscusa
"Were they not interested in coal as a competitor of oil"

The competition is coal vs natural gas. You need to realize that at that time Texas was converting much coal power to natural gas power and now generates more electricity from gas(42%) than coal(36%). Remember Enron?

This article mentions Ensenada in terms of coal but it fails to mention the Sempra Energy consortium building the LNG off load terminal and two gas fired power plants there.

There is also the aspect of coal vs coal. You don't think Powder River and WV were doing all they could to stop the Utah coal mine. Back in that time frame Clinton was backing mountain top coal mining in WV and in campaign 2000 both Bush and Gore were also.

23 posted on 02/26/2011 8:24:50 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: doug from upland

Now you all can get back to lickin Clinton’s ass every time his name is mentioned. I know I can count on the NYT to carry on. Carry on now. Have fun.


24 posted on 02/26/2011 8:33:39 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: doug from upland
Coal to Oil with this source using enhanced Fischer Torpsch conversion process would fuel how many domestic airliners and have a "JP" fuel for our military from a secure source?

I hope POTUS 45 can nix this with an executive order, I think she would do it in a heartbeat, 1st day even if she knew she could do it constitutionally.

25 posted on 02/26/2011 8:37:22 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: doug from upland
Coal to Oil with this source using enhanced Fischer Torpsch conversion process would fuel how many domestic airliners and have a "JP" fuel for our military from a secure source?

I hope POTUS 45 can nix this with an executive order, I think she would do it in a heartbeat, 1st day even if she knew she could do it constitutionally.

26 posted on 02/26/2011 8:38:01 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: FightThePower!
The coal is still there. If we ever need it bad enough, we can still get it.

That would require an act of Congress. Clinton put the land on hold using the Antiquities Act, and cannot be undone by an EO from President Palin.

27 posted on 02/26/2011 9:38:46 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (You CAN get blood from a stone, if you throw it hard enough.)
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To: doug from upland; All

W didn’t undo it and he could’ve.


28 posted on 02/26/2011 3:49:19 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey; FightThePower!; doug from upland; Ann Archy; ConservativeMind; Disambiguator

The Feds have halted expansion of the Black Mesa Coal mining in NE Arizona, which could be the death knell for the Navajo Power Plant in Page, AZ. All that they have left is brown coal, lignite, which is hard to burn cleanly and will only last up to 5 more years. This power plant is within sight of the Grand Staircase Escalante Monument that sits on $1+ trillion worth of quality “clean” coal in Utah.

A small coal developer is quietly surface mining coal near the Monument on private land and hauling the coal to Delta, Utah for the IPP. It is great, high BTU, low sulfur coal as advertised. They are only allowed to mine a limited amount per year. Hopefully, they will be able to expand to state and BLM lands within a few years. This could keep the Navajo Power Plant running, and do so cheaper and cleaner if it is allowed to continue and expand. Any reclamation will be an improvement on the PJ and sagebrush flats that sit atop the shallow coal seams. This is nowhere near the protected scenery of the National Parks, although the enviro-propaganda would have you believe otherwise.


29 posted on 05/01/2011 1:07:31 PM PDT by Our Resources (A crack in the Monumental lock-up?)
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