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4 Americans on hijacked yacht dead off Somalia
CBS News ^ | 2-22-11 | CBS/AP

Posted on 02/22/2011 1:23:08 PM PST by STONEWALLS

A pirate fired a rocket-propelled grenade at a U.S. Navy destroyer shadowing a hijacked yacht with four Americans aboard Tuesday. Then gunfire erupted, the military said. U.S. special forces rushed to the yacht only to find the four Americans fatally wounded.

The experienced yacht enthusiasts from California and Washington are the first Americans killed by Somali pirates since the start of attacks off East Africa several years ago. One of the American couples on board had been sailing around the world since 2004 handing out Bibles.

Their deaths appeared to underscore an increasingly brutal and aggressive shift by pirates in their treatment of hostages.

Killing hostages "has now become part of our rules," said a pirate who identified himself as Muse Abdi and referred to last week's sentencing of a pirate to 33 years in prison for the 2009 attack on the U.S. cargo vessel the Maersk Alabama.

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KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; obamasfault; pirates; somalipirates
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....with that high-yellow Muslim sissy we've got in the White House, this kind of thing will only get worse.
1 posted on 02/22/2011 1:23:10 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: STONEWALLS

Follow them to their home port and then use nerve gas to put an end to them. These aren’t humans.


2 posted on 02/22/2011 1:25:09 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer.")
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To: STONEWALLS

In the old days the naval commander in the vicinity would be allowed (and expected) to burn the pirate sheltering port down to the ground.


3 posted on 02/22/2011 1:26:09 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: STONEWALLS
Things are getting worse for Americans,......as long as Zer0 is president.
4 posted on 02/22/2011 1:26:13 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: STONEWALLS

Had a boat full of Bibles - God bless the martyrs.


5 posted on 02/22/2011 1:27:06 PM PST by DManA
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To: STONEWALLS

Clearly: The word is out that Obama can easily be pushed around.

Think it over: SKIFFS initiated fire against a US destroyer.

Remember how Khaddafi piped down after the Reagan Treatment?

One side has the will, but little means. The other side has the means, and not the will.


6 posted on 02/22/2011 1:29:29 PM PST by gaijin
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To: STONEWALLS

7 posted on 02/22/2011 1:31:23 PM PST by gaijin
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"Killing hostages "has now become part of our rules," said a pirate...

Their rules of engagement have changed. Our response should be summary execution for those caught in the act of piracy.

8 posted on 02/22/2011 1:31:54 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: STONEWALLS

Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.


9 posted on 02/22/2011 1:33:22 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: STONEWALLS
"....with that high-yellow Muslim sissy we've got in the White House, this kind of thing will only get worse."

Bozo is too busy these days - Like being at his 13th trip to Ohio in just as many months.

C'mon - what's more important - protecting our citizens & our country or running around the country on the tax payer's dime to promote his UNION thugs!!

10 posted on 02/22/2011 1:34:16 PM PST by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: STONEWALLS

And the response of the President of the United States will be... nothing.

Provided he doesn’t get down on his knees and apologize to the pirates on behalf of America for making the ghouls expend four rounds.


11 posted on 02/22/2011 1:36:39 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: STONEWALLS

Firing a rocket propelled grenade at a US Destroyer? How come the pirates are still breathing?

Is this not an act of war?

Yet another checkmark on Obama’s glowing record as POTUS...

WE supposedly have the most advanced military in the world, with the best of resources, and are supposedly geared-up for war against terrorists -which pirates are. So why can we not seem to do anything about this? The surrounding nations don’t seem to care or are helpless to do anything. Why is this not a priority? Hello - is anyone home in the White House, or are you out playing golf again?


12 posted on 02/22/2011 1:36:50 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: STONEWALLS
I want to know why any of the pirates who were part of this hijacking are still alive. As I understand the Rules of the Sea, our Navy had every right to kill them all.

Did Obama order that they be spared?

ML/NJ

13 posted on 02/22/2011 1:38:38 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“...burn the pirate sheltering port down to the ground.”

That’s the missing linkage. Any port that shelters pirates is either governed by a criminal regime that gives shelter to pirates or is governed by the pirates themselves.


14 posted on 02/22/2011 1:39:23 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: colorado tanker
Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.

Very bad idea. Keep them out of reach of the ACLU lawyers. Military commission on the deck of the USS >fill in the name of vessel here<, and then hang 'em from the yardarm. Best part, it's legal.

15 posted on 02/22/2011 1:39:45 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: colorado tanker
Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.

NO. ABSOLUTELY NO.

Kill them and dump their bodies at sea for the sharks.

ML/NJ

16 posted on 02/22/2011 1:40:37 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: gaijin

“The other side has the means, and not the will.”

It has often occurred to me and still seems strangely counter-intuitive that we lost the will exactly when we developed the ultimate means.


17 posted on 02/22/2011 1:41:57 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: ml/nj

Or airdrop their corpses over Mogadishu...


18 posted on 02/22/2011 1:42:02 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: STONEWALLS
From the article:

Pirates — who currently hold 30 ships and more than 660 hostages

They are holding more than 600 hostages and 30 ships? Hello!!!!??? That wouldn't be something so easy to hide.

IF the international community (or even just the US) wanted to do something about this, it could be done.

Failure to act is to be complicit.

19 posted on 02/22/2011 1:46:04 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: DManA

Or as TOTUS would call them, “Bitter clingers”.


20 posted on 02/22/2011 1:49:55 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: colorado tanker
“Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.”

Wrong answer. Immediate masthead trial followed by summary execution and burial at sea.

All perfect legal, and the most compassionate and sane response to piracy.

“It's more of a guideline really.”

21 posted on 02/22/2011 1:51:13 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The other President who refused to save American lives was named Clinton.


22 posted on 02/22/2011 1:56:07 PM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: TheBattman
Or airdrop their corpses over Mogadishu...

Maybe one free flying lesson wouldn't hurt, long.

23 posted on 02/22/2011 2:04:11 PM PST by Errant
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To: STONEWALLS

But the BBC’s Will Ross in Nairobi says the pirates’ telling of the encounter differs from the US Navy’s. The pirates report the US warship attacked first, killing two pirates, and the hostages were killed in retaliation.

The incident will provoke further debate on whether the use of force is wise when dealing with Somali pirates who have already taken hostages, our correspondent says.

BBC


24 posted on 02/22/2011 2:08:07 PM PST by Cardhu
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To: allmendream
You and I would like to see summary execution of pirates, but you know as well as I do the Navy will never do that.

It's either return them to Somalia or lock 'em up in the US the rest of their lives - or execute them here.

25 posted on 02/22/2011 2:08:07 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: STONEWALLS

World Peace 1.20.09.


26 posted on 02/22/2011 2:10:06 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: gaijin

Khadaffi “piped down” by blowing up Pan Am 103.


27 posted on 02/22/2011 2:10:52 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: TheBattman
Firing a rocket propelled grenade at a US Destroyer? How come the pirates are still breathing?

Two aren't.

28 posted on 02/22/2011 2:11:30 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: STONEWALLS

“To the shores of Tripoli...”

How come T. Jefferson (and the United States MARINES were able to take care of EXACTLY the same kind of problem TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO and we just kind of waffle and wander and pussyfoot around???

And while I’m ranting, who are these idjits who are out “pleasure boating” in dangerous waters WITHOUT at least a .30-06 and a couple 45’s? FN Tubers!


29 posted on 02/22/2011 2:13:08 PM PST by djf (Sometimes you are The Old Man and the Sea. But most times, you are the fish!!)
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I want to know why any of the pirates who were part of this hijacking are still alive. As I understand the Rules of the Sea, our Navy had every right to kill them all.

Would you order a sailor under your command to execute prisoners without a trial?

30 posted on 02/22/2011 2:13:44 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: STONEWALLS
Crashing economy, chaos in the M.E., Americans murdered, sounds like it is time for Obama’s next vactation. After all, he has come to work steady, sort of, for almost two straight weeks, in a row I might add, for the first time ever.

Gimme a break. That is too much to ask from anyone.

What did he say about the BP spill? “I can't go down there and suck it up with a straw!” Jeez people! What do you expect ME to do about it? Why is this suddenly MY problem? Hell, I just barely work here. And even then, I'm only here for the beer dude!

I think that pretty much sums up his position on just about everything.

31 posted on 02/22/2011 2:20:37 PM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: SeeSac

“Would you order a sailor under your command to execute prisoners without a trial?”

....interesting point....the British admiralty who had a lot of experiance in this sort of thing, used to bring pirates back to London....there they would be tried and hung by the harbor....and left hanging, so that others might learn from the example.


32 posted on 02/22/2011 2:22:22 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: colorado tanker
The “modern” U.S. Navy may not do that, it was S.O.P. for centuries before that.

Maybe the Saltdogs can send some real genuine killers like the USAF, not bellbottom hand holders; we would give them a non-guided tour of the hell by way of the bottom of the sea faster than you can say “Bombs Away”.

33 posted on 02/22/2011 2:22:22 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: colorado tanker

“Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.”

A more likely scenario will have in Minneapolis or San Diego collecting welfare.


34 posted on 02/22/2011 2:23:11 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: forgotten man

Actually, all the Somalis brought back to the US have been convicted and sentenced to long prison terms - and they didn’t murder people in plain sight of a Navy ship.


35 posted on 02/22/2011 2:28:38 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: ml/nj
Did Obama order that they be spared?

Given the state and agenda of our media, we will never know.

36 posted on 02/22/2011 2:34:39 PM PST by Last Dakotan (Hunting - the ultimate in organic grocery shopping.)
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To: ml/nj
I want to know why any of the pirates who were part of this hijacking are still alive.

Do you recall marines being tried for murder? "You can bet that Tommy sees".

37 posted on 02/22/2011 2:40:35 PM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: SeeSac
Would you order a sailor under your command to execute prisoners without a trial?

I would hold a trial at sea. I would allow each prisoner to speak if he were able. You really don't need much more evidence than that they were part of a group that murdered others at sea to further their own financial gain.

After the evidence was presented, I would execute without hesitation those I believed guilty. I would do it myself unless someone under my command demanded the honor.

Any other questions?

ML/NJ

38 posted on 02/22/2011 2:41:10 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Navy Patriot

Send a message. Hang them all and televise it.


39 posted on 02/22/2011 2:41:43 PM PST by Rodm
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To: colorado tanker
convicted and sentenced to long prison terms

Why should I have to pay for their food, clothing and shelter (and lawyers and gymnasiums too)? Kill them and dump them at sea. It is permissible in the case of piracy under international law.

ML/NJ

40 posted on 02/22/2011 2:45:37 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

I agree with you and it’s nice to vent, but that ain’t gonna happen.


41 posted on 02/22/2011 2:47:37 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker; Menehune56
Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.

No convene a Military Drum Head Courts Martial on the fan tail of the ship for the crime of Piracy and murder on the high seas. When convicted, decorate the ships yard arms with them.

42 posted on 02/22/2011 2:50:23 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: STONEWALLS

For Obama and Holder, probably their first thought was “we’ve got to make sure no one uses this as an excuse for making any negative comments about Muslims.” Standing with his Muslim brothers is Obama’s first priority, after all.


43 posted on 02/22/2011 3:04:33 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: STONEWALLS

I remember very distinctly when the Navy SEAL team off the USS BAINBRIDGE successfully shot and killed the pirate on Easter, and Obama quickly took credit and said he was the one who gave them the order. I wonder when he will step forward and take credit for this. I believe he only takes credits for success, especially when it belongs to other people.


44 posted on 02/22/2011 3:14:58 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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“Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.”

Naa,
Why waste more of my tax money with a trial and prison.
Better to sink the ship and let “Allah” give them the reward that they seek.
Why isn’t there a Sink First and ask questions later.


45 posted on 02/22/2011 3:16:27 PM PST by a02001 (Help the third world poor one person at a time- www.kiva.org)
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To: Rodm
Want to send a message? Do it like the Spetznaz.
1) Take down the pirates.
2) Handcuff them to their craft — dead, wounded, or unwounded.
3) Set scuttling charges and pull the fuze lighters.
4) Film explosion and sinking from a distance as the pirates go down with the vessel.
5) Let the sharks clean up.
6) Send a tape of their demise to the pirates.
Bye, bye, boys.
46 posted on 02/22/2011 3:20:40 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: colorado tanker

“Haul them back to the USA and put them on trial for murder one.”

No. They have no right to a trial in the USA. I have no knowledge what the “Law of the Sea” says about such things or even if such a “law” applies. But for the murder of innocent Americans on the high seas by rogues such as this, I don’t see why summary execution wouldn’t be appropriate.


47 posted on 02/22/2011 3:25:27 PM PST by Samson0254 (Nothing is impossible for those who don't have to do it or pay for it.)
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To: Jack Hammer
And the response of the President of the United States will be... nothing. Provided he doesn’t get down on his knees and apologize to the pirates on behalf of America for making the ghouls expend four rounds

Heck, I about half expect him to say that the hostages acted stupidly...after giving a shout out to his SEIU buddies.

48 posted on 02/22/2011 3:32:33 PM PST by Marathoner (Karl Marx loved government education)
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To: STONEWALLS
"U.S. Navy destroyer shadowing a hijacked yacht"

"Shadowing?"

They should have cut the pirates down "like that much pork."

"Dead men don't bite"

Billy Bones

49 posted on 02/22/2011 3:37:38 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Cardhu

When I found out about this today, I was wondering if this was actually a botched rescue.


50 posted on 02/22/2011 3:38:50 PM PST by virgil
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