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Obama Plans to Nationalize Wireless Internet
The New American ^ | 2-21-2001 | Daniel Sayani

Posted on 02/21/2011 4:52:38 PM PST by Cacique

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To: ronnyquest
The USDA is surveillance city. Twenty years ago I had a talk with a guy who used software i was selling at SCS (soil conservation services) who told me of their "war room" from which they monitored by satellite every major agricultural region in the world. They used this intelligence to intervene in the futures markets to encourage/discourage production, as seemed warranted. Probably all began with good intentions.

Maybe the mark of the beast comes from SCS ;). You know,"from the soil you came, to the soil you shall return" and all.

41 posted on 02/21/2011 5:44:48 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Every knife in my back pushes me forward.)
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To: indylindy

Agreed. They are doing the modern equivalent of looting the town.


42 posted on 02/21/2011 5:47:32 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: indylindy; All
Perhaps we need to re-access who exactly are the weenies.

Weenie re-accessing to commence at 08:00. Synchronize you watches.

43 posted on 02/21/2011 5:51:41 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Every knife in my back pushes me forward.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

I highly recommend everyone read “ Bloodlands “ by Timothy Snyder. It is an eyeopener. I have it on my Kindle, not very expensive, around 9 bucks and well worth the read. If you do, you will be very very afraid at what is happening right now world wide.


44 posted on 02/21/2011 5:52:25 PM PST by juma (What i s the real answer ? Does anyone Know ?)
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To: OKSooner
From Yahoo news 10 days ago.. Obama rolls out 18 billion dollar Internet plan
45 posted on 02/21/2011 5:52:56 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: the invisib1e hand

Maybe if we all jump up and down at the same time we can reverse this nightmare.

It is worth a try. Nothing else seems to be working. LOL


46 posted on 02/21/2011 5:57:27 PM PST by dforest
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To: Cacique

Pie from the sky plan.

I have to give Bummer an honorable mention for imagination in this one, but that’s it. I think Republicans are not stick-in-the-muds and would like to do something similar, but know the price is vastly too large for what would be had. There’s already been a shakeout in the private sector of internet services. As the availability of cable and DSL has grown, we see fewer providers who support those little dishes that adorned many housetops in urban areas a decade ago.


47 posted on 02/21/2011 6:03:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Red Badger
It screws up the GPS because they want you to get lost.......

And they don't want to track GPS-braceleted sex offenders.

48 posted on 02/21/2011 6:08:40 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This has nothing to do with tech. It has to do with control. Lysenko knew nothing of biology, but his views fit with Stalin's dogma and doctrine and the need to control. Like health care, the objective is to get rid of the competition and have a government monopoly. Why pay for internet when govt. will give it away for free? Thus ISP's will go out of business or go into something else. Once the govt. owns it they can regulate it completely, never mind net neutrality. The oligarchy has been looking for a way to shut down or control the internet since the very beginning.

The internet allows the spread of ideas, the state doesn't like ideas they don't spread. To quote Stalin; "ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let the people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?"

49 posted on 02/21/2011 6:17:38 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

>He is ignoring congress and the courts and acting more like a dictator.<

In so many ways it is hard to keep track of them all. federal judges are ignored. He is sending union thugs to enforce his will against states.

He is really pushing the bounds of his regime as far as he can. I don’t want to sound like some alarmist, but god forbid he wins in 2012 and entrenches himself. I have serious doubts that he would leave after his term limit expired.


50 posted on 02/21/2011 6:48:22 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

>Wonder what the communists like so much about it.<

the ability to reach the masses with propaganda


51 posted on 02/21/2011 6:50:18 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Cacique
To me this falls under "seizure" of private property. In the first acts of his administration the president has been very calculating in quickly shifting his ducks around in a row. This time favoring special new ducks - Labor and its' Unions.

It's also always helpful to have a war going on, then the National Security in a critical situation or threatened disaster [a usable crisis] scenario comes into play. An "industry may become so lawless, so irresponsible, as to endanger the whole economy" then taking over control by the government "temporarily" is on the table.

But The Wireless Internet? The Internet being shut down in foreign countries in turmoil keeps being repeated. Their governments taking control said for security reasons.

A kindly president, it is said may be able take over an industry for the reasons before mentioned; but another president may have an entirely different or personal agenda in the making to want to assume control. It's scary to conceive the nationalizing of the Internet. The privacy issue alone, "free speech", an underground media railway. Then Congress, by subsequent action, must, I believe, ratify the seizure?

Truman's 1949 domestic legislation program began with:

"Every segment of our population and every individual has the right to expect from our government a fair deal."

"....the Fair Deal included the repeal of the Taft-Hartley Act, which had passed over a presidential veto in 1947. It outlawed industry-wide strikes, closed shops, and mass picketing; made unions liable to suits; required union leaders, before they could use the National Labor Relations Board, to file affidavits declaring that they were not Communists; set up cooling-off periods before strikes; prohibited the use of union funds for political contributions; and gave the president power to obtain anti-union injunctions"... unlike the LABOR powers within the Obama administration now gifted to the unions and their bosses by the president, himself; as seen here in the already passed Executive Order #13522.

The unpopular Truman, with polls having him down to 23% like someone else we know, then chose to seize the mills in the name of the government. The mill owners went to court, and the resultant decision, in Youngstown Sheet and Tube Company v. Sawyer , forced Secretary of Commerce Charles Sawyer to give the mills back to the owners and constituted a sharp blow to Truman's popularity. It was one of the century's most important Supreme Court decisions "limiting the power of the president".

President Wilson's seizures also gave rise to controversy. In his testimony in justification of the Montgomery Ward seizure during World War II, Attorney General Biddle argued that the World War I seizure of Smith & Wesson could not be supported under any of the World War I statutes authorizing seizure. He thus adduced it in support of the claim of so-called inherent Presidential power of seizure. See Hearings before House Select Committee to Investigate the Seizure of Montgomery Ward, 78th Cong., 2d Sess. 167-168.

If history is to be repeated, it seems a lose, lose for the Obama administration and his appointed Labor Generals. In all this time he could not succeed in creating Obamacare to his liking, add that the Olympic games, the creation of Jobs etc ...I don't think we need to worry.

52 posted on 02/21/2011 6:58:04 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: silverleaf
Probably an early attempt at their Internet Kill Switch.

What the govt gives, the govt takes away to get what it wants. Witness govt threats to cut all highway funding if states didn't lower their speed limit to 55 MPH

I'm rural and I dont want this.

53 posted on 02/21/2011 7:37:43 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: elpinta
Headquartered in Greenwood Village, Colorado, Open Range Communications was approved in 2009 for a loan by the United States Department of Agriculture’s Rural Development Utilities Program (RDUP) to deliver High Speed Wireless Internet to 525 rural communities across 17 states.

This Broadband Access Loan of $267 million loan (the largest in USDA history) was made possible through the combined efforts of the RUS, FCC and Members of the House of Representatives and United States Senate. Open Range received additional funding on January 9, 2009 an investment of $100 million from One Equity Partners (OEP), the private equity arm of JPMorgan Chase & Co.

The OEP investment satisfied the RDUP's loan terms, making the funds available to Open Range. Open Range would like to thank everyone from local and state government who equally share the Open Range vision for rural America and ubiquitous High Speed Internet Service at an affordable price.

54 posted on 02/21/2011 8:41:24 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Cacique

Is part of this the extension of Internet benefits to those who now cannot afford them, in order to skew public opinion toward the poor and young and powerless—i.e., those who tend to be leftist in their politics?


55 posted on 02/21/2011 8:56:13 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

I don’t think that this will happen, because an “alternate Internet” will be created, if not from the top down, then from the bottom up. Such a thing may already exist, heh heh. Remember, the internet protocol was designed to survive military attack, it can certainly survive evil politicians.


56 posted on 02/21/2011 9:29:29 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Cacique

why is he to be obeyed on all this..he is not a king


58 posted on 02/22/2011 11:11:53 AM PST by dalebert
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