U-Haul Prices as Migration Indicator (latest migration numbers from US Census, large metro areas)

New Geography ^ | 2009 | Marck Schill

[SeekAndFind]

Austin fared very well on this year's Best Cities Rankings, and here's another interesting indicator of the difference in migration between Austin and San Francisco:

"When comparing California with Texas, U-Haul says it all. To rent a 26-foot truck oneway from San Francisco to Austin, the charge is $3,236, and yet the one-way charge for that same truck from Austin to San Francisco is just $399. Clearly what is happening is that far more people want to move from San Francisco to Austin than vice versa, so U-Haul has to pay its own employees to drive the empty trucks back from Texas."

This anecdote comes from a report comparing business environments in Texas to California.

Here's a table of the latest domestic migration numbers from US Census for all metropolitan areas of more than 1.5 million total population (rate numbers are per 1,000 population):

NAME	Population, 2008	Net Domesitc Migration Rate, 2008	Ave. Net Domesic Mig Rate, 2001-2008
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA	19,006,798	-7.6	-12.0
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA	12,872,808	-9.0	-12.2
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI	9,569,624	-4.4	-6.8
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX	6,300,006	7.0	5.7
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD	5,838,471	-3.8	-2.3
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX	5,728,143	6.6	4.5
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL	5,414,772	-8.7	-5.1
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA	5,376,285	8.2	10.2
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV	5,358,130	-3.4	-2.9
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH	4,522,858	-1.8	-7.1
Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI	4,425,110	-13.9	-9.1
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ	4,281,899	12.3	17.9
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA	4,274,531	1.3	-10.5
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA	4,115,871	-1.9	16.1
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA	3,344,813	3.6	0.9
Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI	3,229,878	-1.1	-1.0
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA	3,001,072	0.1	-4.8
St. Louis, MO-IL	2,816,710	-2.0	-1.8
Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL	2,733,761	2.4	12.9
Baltimore-Towson, MD	2,667,117	-4.6	-1.6
Denver-Aurora, CO /1	2,506,626	7.3	1.8
Pittsburgh, PA	2,351,192	-1.0	-2.9
Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA	2,207,462	8.3	6.2
Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN	2,155,137	-1.7	-1.2
Sacramento--Arden-Arcade--Roseville, CA	2,109,832	2.2	8.7
Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH	2,088,291	-7.1	-7.5
Orlando-Kissimmee, FL	2,054,574	1.6	15.9
San Antonio, TX	2,031,445	11.5	10.4
Kansas City, MO-KS	2,002,047	0.7	1.5
Las Vegas-Paradise, NV	1,865,746	7.9	23.7
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA	1,819,198	-1.5	-16.4
Columbus, OH	1,773,120	1.4	1.8
Indianapolis-Carmel, IN	1,715,459	4.0	4.8
Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC	1,701,799	20.9	18.2
Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC	1,658,292	-9.4	-0.6
Austin-Round Rock, TX	1,652,602	22.0	17.2
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA	1,596,611	-6.6	-3.7
Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN	1,550,733	10.9	9.6
Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI	1,549,308	-4.2	-5.9

[SeekAndFind]

The above data is from the latest domestic migration census (2009). I don't have the 2010 figures yet, but I don't see a significant change.

[DManA]

From the looks of this Tx better start building some power plants like right now.

[SeekAndFind]

Don’t know how accurate this site is but from this website:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u-s/1144415-domestic-migration-2000-2009-best-states.html

According to the US census bureau :

The 5 best :
1.Florida : + 1,154,000 people from the other states
2.Texas : + 838,000
3.Arizona : + 697,000
4.North Carolina : + 663,000
5.Georgia : + 550,000

The 5 worst :
1.New York : - 1,650,000
2.California : - 1,490,000
3.Illinois : - 614,000
4.Michigan : - 537,000
5.New Jersey : - 451,000

[org.whodat]

The only difference in Austin and the bay, is the color of tassels on the cowboy boots.

[SeekAndFind]

MORE HERE :

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/12/22/2010-census-shows-folks-flocking-to-free-market-states/

2010 Census Shows Folks Flocking to Free Market States

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Data released by the census bureau yesterday indicates that Republican-leaning seats will have a stronger voice in the House and increased pull in the electoral college over the next decade. Yet, there is a deeper, more important message contained within the heaps of figures as well.

States that embrace conservative principles of governance are growing, while those states that stubbornly cling to progressive policies are bleeding citizens, jobs and influence. People are flocking to states in the South and West that offer low taxes and reject mandatory collective bargaining. The population increase in states governed by conservative principles has two components: internal migration and immigration. In the first case, American citizens continue to relocate into states where government exerts a light hand. In the latter, new immigrants naturally flock to the states where economic opportunities are the brightest. Either way, the 2010 census provides a ringing endorsement for the kind of free market, limited government principles that the electorate so strongly supported in the last election.

The big winner was Texas, which saw its population swell by twenty-one percent over the last decade and which will gain four seats in the House of Representatives as a result. As a “Right to Work” state and one that imposes no state income tax, Texas continues to serve as a model of free market driven prosperity, despite the long recession. Last year the Lone Star state added 129,000 jobs. Compare that to California, which lost 112,000 jobs in the same time frame. Then, consider another point of contrast: state and local government spending in Texas has held steady at about eighteen percent of its private GDP, while state and local government spending in California ballooned from nineteen percent in 1987 to over twenty-six percent today.

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[SeekAndFind]

[FromLori]

Chicago Population Sinks to 1920 Level

[SeekAndFind]

What’s left of Chicago will vote Democrat till Kingdom come.

Hope Mayor Rahm Emanuel enjoys what’s left of the city.

[SeekAndFind]

FROM The Investor’s Business Daily talking about California...

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/552810/201011041910/The-Golden-State-Still-Doesnt-Get-It.aspx

• Some 2.3 million Californians are without jobs, for a 12.4% unemployment rate — one of the highest in the country.

• From 2001 to 2010, factory jobs plummeted from 1.87 million to 1.23 million — a loss of 34% of the state’s industrial base. Ask any company, and it’ll tell you the same thing: It’s now almost impossible to build a big factory in California.

• With just 12% of the U.S. population, California has almost a third of the nation’s welfare recipients. Some joke the state motto should be changed from “The Golden State” to “The Welfare State.” Meanwhile, 15.3% of all Californians live in poverty.

• The state budget gap for 2009-10 was $45.5 billion, or 53% of total state spending — the largest in any state’s history.

• The state’s sales tax is the nation’s highest, and its income tax the third-highest, the BusinessInsider.com Web site recently noted. Meanwhile, the Tax Foundation’s “State Business Tax Climate Index” ranks California 48th.

• In a ranking by corporate relocation expert Ronald Pollina of the 50 states based on 31 factors for job creation, California finished dead last.

• In another ranking, this one by the Beacon Hill Institute on state competitiveness, California came in 32nd — down seven spots in just one year.

• California is home to 25% of America’s 12 million to 20 million illegal immigrants. A 2004 study estimated that illegals cost the state’s citizens $10.5 billion a year — roughly $1,200 per family.

• Unfunded pension liabilities for California’s state and public employees may be as much as $500 billion — roughly 17% of the nation’s total $3 trillion at the state and local level.

• Democrats had a 13-point party identification advantage among California voters, compared with an even split nationwide

• A large part of the state’s Democratic tilt comes from its massive Latino population. The Los Angeles Times noted that it made up 22% of the voting pool

• Latinos went for Democrats by 2-to-1

[Yo-Yo]

A couple of years ago I had to rent a U-Haul trailer to move my in-laws’ stuff from Alabama back to Michigan. They practically paid me to haul the trailer up to Michigan for them. I was told it would literally had been triple the price if I were going from Michigan to Alabama instead.

[null and void]

Hope Mayor Rahm Emanuel enjoys what’s left of the city.

He would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.

[Eye of Unk]

Almost sounds like it would be cheaper to fly out where you plan to go and rent the truck there, drive it back to where you are leaving.

In effect you drive R/T, #399 is a lot cheaper than $3990.

I wonder if anyone has done a survey of the amount of people moving to Alaska?

[fightinJAG]

We can understand the meaning of the original titles without explication in the title box. Thank you.

[Liberty Tree Surgeon]

Hold on there! Have you seen the mosquitos down here? Those aren’t butterflies fluttering around your ears! And the mosquitos are rife with West Nile Virus and a new strain of ebola.

If that’s not bad enough, we’re getting 10 to 20 hurricanes a year nowadays, some powerful enough to strip the paint of your house as far inland as Amarillo. And after the storms wash away livestock and whole kindergartens, the August sun bakes the mud into a substance approaching the hardness of concrete, which traps the survivors and allows easy pickings for the coyotes. And when I sawy coyotes, I mean feral, dire wolf-size Worgs driven crazy by rabies, cholera, and small pox.

So do yourself a favor, and don’t move here.

[DManA]

LOL, Pretty transparent LTS.

[SeekAndFind]

You’ve been stalking several of my posts with the same message for weeks. Is this a rule given to us by the Admin/Moderators?

[Buckeye McFrog]

in that case a one-way move from Flint, Michigan to Austin must run in the neighborhood of $700K

[DrC]

It’s so sad to see so many people leaving Blue states. If only progressives believed in markets, they would understand the notion of people “voting with their feet” and what that implies about the misguided policies pursued in these hotbeds of progressivism.