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What we need is for the federal government to enforce the second amendment instead of infringing on it.
1 posted on 02/18/2011 9:27:11 AM PST by marktwain
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I’m not so sure about this. It essentially tries to codify a “natural right” in the constitution. This is asking for trouble, because natural rights are not modifiable by the law. If a law is written for them, the assumption should be that the law can be changed, modified and/or corrupted.

Lots of efforts have been made in past to codify free speech, and today there are literally hundreds of exceptions to free speech, that have evolved over time.

In this case, even before the ink was dry on the law “permitting” carry, there would be calls on who should be excluded from that law. Convicts in prison, or on parole? The insane, to some degree, and what about PTSD? Child and spouse abusers? Illegal aliens? Foreign visitors?

Suddenly what had been a “natural right” is eroded. And if it happens at the federal level, it applies to everyone, be they in rural Alaska or Manhattan.

That sounds like a gun control fantasy.

The last effort to federalize such an issue was Roe v. Wade. What a nightmare.


2 posted on 02/18/2011 9:51:08 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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“It is time to press forward for nationally recognized right to carry.”
It is time to start removing state and city gun control laws that prevent the carrying of a firearm. Not to pass new gun control laws.


5 posted on 02/18/2011 10:59:20 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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Any national carry law would have to be devoid of new federal "off limits" places and any training requirements or else it would just be adding new restrictions to some people, depending on which state you lived in.

Many states have almost no off-limits places. You can carry into bars while drinking, onto school property, into non-secure areas of airports, and into state houses and other state buildings. I would hate to see a federal law make these places or anywhere else off-limits.

All that is needed is a law stating that a license issued by one state is good in the other 49, honoring the full faith and credit clause in the constitution. No federal training requirements, no federal off-limits places, no registration or limits on the number and/or type of pistol that can be carried.

I would also hate to see any sort of hindrance to unlicensed OC as an inadvertent (or intentional) side effect of a national CCW law.
6 posted on 02/18/2011 12:54:43 PM PST by Dayman
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w/o the 2A being supported, verbatim, theres no sense in pushing 'natl carry' anything...

the players will end up meeting in the middle and compromising on NY,NJ and Il style 'law'...

sorry, but id rather keep my flyover rules and avoid liberal/commie crapholes, thank you very much...

7 posted on 02/18/2011 2:40:41 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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I have very mixed feelings about this. I think the rampant federalization of everything is more of a threat to our liberties than the fact that some states don’t honor them. It’s far easier to vote with your feet when the problem is a state than when it’s the federal goobermint. (Motto: “We put the goober in goobermint!”)


9 posted on 02/19/2011 7:35:40 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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