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Barbara Bush: 'No More, You're Killing Us'
Townhall.com ^ | February 15, 2011 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 02/15/2011 4:29:04 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/15/2011 4:29:04 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Simple cure:

1) No teachers union or cushy tenure. Pay for perform.
2) No assistance dollars for any household where a felon, illegal, juvenile delinquent or truant child lives.


2 posted on 02/15/2011 4:34:54 AM PST by IamConservative (Liberalism - the surety of knowing that which cannot be proven.)
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To: Kaslin

Texas ranks 33rd in the nation on teacher salaries.

At least they have something to be proud of.


3 posted on 02/15/2011 4:41:14 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Kaslin
The only way to get America and its educational system back on track is to take back the primary role of parenting from teachers and other societal guardians (including Big Brother government). That also includes our not expecting those who lead Sunday schools to be the primary spiritual teachers of our children, rather owning that area of their maturation, as well.

Amen.

4 posted on 02/15/2011 4:42:45 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: IamConservative

Also, the end of education degree credentialism. That’s where they get brainwashed in all sorts of idiocy, including whole word reading.


5 posted on 02/15/2011 4:44:13 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin

Not to nit pick, but it seems to me that our state has somewhat of an albatross around its neck when it comes to literacy and graduation rates, given the huge numbers of illegals occasionally attending our larger metropolitan school districts.


6 posted on 02/15/2011 4:50:31 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: Kaslin

Same sorry state of ed in Nevada. Courts say we must educate children of illegal aliens.


8 posted on 02/15/2011 4:52:12 AM PST by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2011)
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How many of those failing english could pass the test in spanish?


9 posted on 02/15/2011 4:52:31 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Kaslin

Dismantle the public school system.


10 posted on 02/15/2011 4:55:02 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Common Sense 101

You are correct.


11 posted on 02/15/2011 4:55:02 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: IamConservative

I think it needs to go much further.

Every time the government enacts some kind of reform, the situation just
gets worse. Get the Fed out of education.

Even state goverment is too much in my opinion.

Parents should be able to pick, choose, and define the education that their children will receive.


12 posted on 02/15/2011 4:58:09 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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Probably not too many. Many immigrants are not very well educated in Spanish. They can read and write, but grammar and spelling are pretty weak. Children from Spanish-speaking families can be taught correct Spanish in Spanish class, if they think it’s useful.

One can’t blame the failure of native English speakers to use the language correctly on immigrants. Students are simply not being taught to read English effectively and write it correctly, as a deliberate policy of the “education” establishment.


13 posted on 02/15/2011 4:59:44 AM PST by Tax-chick (All that, plus a real-meat cheezburger and wine.)
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To: IamConservative

It needs to go much farther.

Get the Fed out of education.

Even the state government influence should be drastically cut.

One major root of the problem is the influence that professors of education in the University system have.

Parents should be able to pick, choose, and define the education that their children receive.


14 posted on 02/15/2011 5:03:19 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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One can’t blame the failure of native English speakers to use the language correctly on immigrants.

I wasn't trying to blame as much as point out that perhaps the immigrants may be overwhelming the system so that the school systems can't keep up on the standardized tests. But I don't know the statistics in Texas so I posed the question.

15 posted on 02/15/2011 5:04:18 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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The Arabic studies program -- funded by a five-year, $1.3 million Foreign Language Assistance Program federal grant -- was to begin this semester at Cross Timbers Intermediate School and then spread to neighboring schools in the Mansfield Independent School District.

Thank God for the parental passions and patriot fires of the almost 200 parents who showed up at a meeting last week to question the wisdom of school officials. They are fighting in their own personal education Alamo and presently have the upper hand. For the moment, the school district has backed off plans for its Arabic studies program.

Ah, I hadn't heard that. good to know.

Bless these parents for fighting the good fight.

16 posted on 02/15/2011 5:05:54 AM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Kaslin

Tell it to the unions, Babs.


17 posted on 02/15/2011 5:07:01 AM PST by Scanian
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Probably none of them. Very few kids from immigrant homes can actually read the language, and virtually none of them can write it. Children of immigrants only retain their family’s original language if they study it (for example, some well-off urban Chinese families send their kids to Chinese classes).

As for “bilingual classes,” which were supposed to give kids a reading and writing knowledge of two languages, these things were absolute trash. Most of the staff (a lot of it was taught by aides) were poorly educated in both languages, spoke miserable English and were nearly illiterate in Spanish/Chinese/Tagalog/[fill in the blank with the language of your choice]. Its sole purpose was to make money for school districts and employ otherwise unemployable, ignorant, foreign-born low-end educational workers. It left kids ignorant in two languages.

Maybe they’d have more success if they just stuck to teaching English. But they don’t seem to do that very well either.


18 posted on 02/15/2011 5:09:20 AM PST by livius
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Maybe they’d have more success if they just stuck to teaching English. But they don’t seem to do that very well either.

It does seem like kids from any background would be well served to be immersed in english at school. They can always take foreign language classes in middle school and high school if desired like everyone else but there has to be a common language of learning.

Even the leaders of europe are declaring multiculturalism dead. I hope it doesn't take generations for our stupid "educational leaders" to get the point.

This assumes that they are not dumbing us down on purpose, which I'm not sure isn't the case anyway...

19 posted on 02/15/2011 5:14:18 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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the immigrants may be overwhelming the system so that the school systems can't keep up

The decline in test scores has been going on for 30 years or more, across the board, in school systems rich and poor, urban and suburban, regardless of ethnic demographics. The schools have more money and more employees than ever, yet the failure persists because it is inherent in the system.

20 posted on 02/15/2011 5:14:59 AM PST by Tax-chick (All that, plus a real-meat cheezburger and wine.)
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