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W.H. charges 'activism' in ruling
Politico44 ^ | 01/31/11 | MATT NEGRIN & MJ LEE

Posted on 01/31/2011 2:41:53 PM PST by ColdOne

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To: ez

Glad you put that in caps. Hopefully they’ll read it and take note.


61 posted on 01/31/2011 3:09:11 PM PST by jersey117
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To: ColdOne

Liberal projection. LOL.


62 posted on 01/31/2011 3:11:27 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Steely Tom

blah, blah, blah...

I guess Politico didn’t demand they use their names in these statements. I guess that is how confident they really are!

blah, blah, blah...

******

“A good deal [of the analysis] is built on sort of, rhetorical conjecture,” an official told reporters on a conference call. “Obviously this case will be appealed. ... This is not the last word by any means.”

The official also warned that people “should not view this as the government shutting down its implementation efforts.”

Cutter, on the blog, accused the judge of putting “all of the new benefits, cost savings and patient protections that were included in the law at risk.” She added, “We don’t believe this kind of judicial activism will be upheld and we are confident that the Affordable Care Act will ultimately be declared constitutional by the courts.”


63 posted on 01/31/2011 3:11:49 PM PST by kcvl
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To: jersey117
Just saw a new Gieco commercial

Do you live under a rock?

LOL!!!

64 posted on 01/31/2011 3:12:37 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I am proclaiming 2011 as the year of ME!)
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To: nascarnation

I think the lawyers may be getting fed up.


65 posted on 01/31/2011 3:12:37 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: jessduntno

>>That is a REAL good thing.<<

Could you please explain why? I’m missing something.


66 posted on 01/31/2011 3:14:30 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: kcvl
The official also warned that people “should not view this as the government shutting down its implementation efforts.”

Thus ignoring the judge's "suggestion" that the US government do the proper thing. Not real smart.

67 posted on 01/31/2011 3:15:18 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I am proclaiming 2011 as the year of ME!)
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To: bvw

Your argument has merit.

Besides since my post I have heard on Fox that the plan will be to force the repeal vote in the Senate, possibly this week. So perhaps caps were not necessary.


68 posted on 01/31/2011 3:15:48 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: kcvl

“She seems to have been passed around numerous times. Must not be able to keep a steady job even in DC!”

She DOES look “passed around.” Course, she DID work for Ded Kennedy (D-HELL) at one point.


69 posted on 01/31/2011 3:16:47 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: screaminsunshine
I think the lawyers may be getting fed up.

Only because they expected a better ROI than Team Obie has been able to deliver.

70 posted on 01/31/2011 3:17:14 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I am proclaiming 2011 as the year of ME!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Strike two for ObamaCare
By Jennifer Rubin

Following the decision of a federal court judge in Virgina that ruled that the individual mandate is unconstitutional, a Florida court today, in a case involving some 26 states, has held the entire legislation is unconstitutional.

The New York Times reports:

snip

I read the section on “Injunction” and could scarely believe my eyes. Was the judge ordering the government not to enforce ObamaCare in all 26 states? Oh, yes, indeed.

Robert Alt of the Heritage Institute e-mailed me, “The judge noted that declaratory relief is the functional equivalent of an injunction, and applied the long-standing presumption ‘that officials of the Executive Branch will adhere to the law as declared by the court.’ So in the case, the judge asserted that the declaratory relief should bind the parties. If the Obama administration wishes to impose the requirements of Obamacare upon the states, it will need to seek a stay of the opinion either from the judge, or from the 11th Circuit.”

Yeah, wow.

Sure, this will go to the Supreme Court, but Obama’s historic legislation has been dealt a harsh blow.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2011/01/strike_two_for_obamacare.html


71 posted on 01/31/2011 3:18:25 PM PST by kcvl
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To: RobRoy
">>Vinson allowed the law to stand while it is being appealed by the Obama administration.[9]<< that part sucks."

I know this will be hard to believe, but it appears wikipedia and the NYT are wrong.

per wapo blog:

"I read the section on "Injunction" and could scarely believe my eyes. Was the judge ordering the government not to enforce ObamaCare in all 26 states? Oh, yes, indeed.

Robert Alt of the Heritage Institute e-mailed me, "The judge noted that declaratory relief is the functional equivalent of an injunction, and applied the long-standing presumption 'that officials of the Executive Branch will adhere to the law as declared by the court.' So in the case, the judge asserted that the declaratory relief should bind the parties. If the Obama administration wishes to impose the requirements of Obamacare upon the states, it will need to seek a stay of the opinion either from the judge, or from the 11th Circuit.""

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2011/01/strike_two_for_obamacare.html

72 posted on 01/31/2011 3:18:39 PM PST by coaltrain (Obama's a Harvard lawyer like Elvis was a Black Belt)
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To: jersey117

Per Fox, the Senate R’s will attempt to force a vote on the House repeal bill as early as this week. That’ll do. The House should still rush a substitutue forward, even if they simply NAME the bill now and flesh out the details later.


73 posted on 01/31/2011 3:18:46 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: IrishCatholic
Yea, she is lying, or stupid, or both.

= Dumocrat

74 posted on 01/31/2011 3:18:54 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (We had it wrong the whole time. Khrushchev actually said, "We will Barry you!")
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Florida Ruling Requires Government to Stop Implementing Obamacare
Posted by Ilya Shapiro

As I continue digesting Judge Vinson’s ruling, I notice two key things beyond the facts that the “individual mandate is unconstitutional”:

1. In performing his severability analysis — determining which parts of the overall legislation survive — the judge threw out all of Obamacare:

2. In discussing whether to issue an injunction – a judicial command to do or refrain from doing something — the judge determined that his declaratory judgment in this context was the same as an injunction. That is, a federal court saying that a piece of legislation is unconstitutional is effectively the same as a decision mandating the government to act:

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/florida-ruling-requires-government-to-stop-implementing-obamacare/


75 posted on 01/31/2011 3:20:52 PM PST by kcvl
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To: RobRoy
>>That is a REAL good thing.<<

Could you please explain why? I’m missing something.

I think jussduntno was refering to the "unconstitutional and unseverable" issue.

As I understand it, the brainiacs who drafted this bill for Nancy Pelosi neglected to include certain boilerplate language that protects the whole law from being declared unconstitutional at a single stroke from the courts. By this oversight, they set up a situation where, if any one provision of this (gigantic, multi-thousand-page) law is determined to be unconstitutional, the whole shebang goes down the tubes.

76 posted on 01/31/2011 3:21:01 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: RobRoy

>>That is a REAL good thing.<<

“Could you please explain why? I’m missing something.”

The VA court did not find it unseverable, even though they had a problem with the Constitutionality of the clause.. This ruling does. If it is, as many believe, a faulty document with no ability to separate the clauses, than one stinker - like this clause - makes the whole piece of shit legislation void. It will now have to be addressed.


77 posted on 01/31/2011 3:21:32 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

NB: The New York Times and Washington Post report that Judge Vinson has already stayed his own ruling pending appeal, but this is an incorrect reading of the opinion, for the reasons stated above. Moreover, the court’s docket, which is now closed for the day, contains no such stay — nor has plaintiffs’ counsel received notice of one.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/florida-ruling-requires-government-to-stop-implementing-obamacare/


78 posted on 01/31/2011 3:21:39 PM PST by kcvl
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To: ColdOne

Cynical, unacceptable intellectual dishonesty radiates from the White House these days.


79 posted on 01/31/2011 3:22:12 PM PST by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: coaltrain

NB: The New York Times and Washington Post report that Judge Vinson has already stayed his own ruling pending appeal, but this is an incorrect reading of the opinion, for the reasons stated above. Moreover, the court’s docket, which is now closed for the day, contains no such stay — nor has plaintiffs’ counsel received notice of one.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/florida-ruling-requires-government-to-stop-implementing-obamacare/


80 posted on 01/31/2011 3:23:07 PM PST by kcvl
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