This is quite a long interview but well worth the time to read it.
Meanwhile, the only way any good can come from this tragedy is if people take note that the victim’s voting record gives good insight into how the phony “blue dog” ‘Rats operate.
They will find two or so issues that your District really cares about (typically 2nd Amendment and national defense) and vote “conservative” on those issues.
BUT on other issues which are damaging to America (”Dream Act”, Obamacare, abortion, unemployment extension, etc.) they will vote in a block with the rest of the Democrat party.
This is how the Democrat Party has suckered American voters for years and it is one big reason they have maintained majorities when they should not have.
Unfortunately too many voters focus on their one hot-button issue and don’t look any farther. Perhaps this will change in the aftermath of this tragedy
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:32:27 AM by icwhatudo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2653697/posts
______________________________________________________
Here are Caitie Parker's (a former friend of the shooter) original responses to 3 different Twitter posters (the 'at' symbol @ = To: _______ )
(ABC Good Morning America video at link)
Zach Osler: [pp] “Zeitgeist Movement had a PROFOUND effect on shooter and how he saw the world”
http://www.norcalblogs.com/gate/2011/01/shooter-never-listened-to-talk-radio-called-gifford-stupid-after-meeting-her.php
______________________________________________________
The ‘Zeitgeist Movement’ is basically a global Marxism one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement
**************************************************
Concepts advocated by the Zeitgeist Movement
* Management of the Earth's Natural Resources: Once surveyed, the Earth's natural resources will no longer be privately owned. They will be managed according to general sustainability principles of preservation, recycling and optimization.
* No Money, Barter, Trade or Property: The monetary value of commodities does not represent the actual physical supply of natural resources, or their utilitarian value, which is integral to the success of the type of sustainable global society that the Zeitgeist Movement advocates. Income is a requirement for individuals to sustain life in a monetary system, so this in turn creates the need for commodities to be continuously bought and sold and for goods to be continuously produced, in order to make sure that the operation of social functions is maintained. This, combined with competition over market share, creates an abundance of goods that usually exceeds the demand for them, which in turn depletes natural resources and may create excessive waste.
Furthermore, the profit motive inherent in a monetary system, creates an incentive to increase profits regardless of the impact on human beings or the environment. When labor is displaced or outsourced, it either removes a laborer's source of sustenance, or takes advantage of inexpensive laborers. Certain manufacturers and corporations have been noted to contaminate the environment by dumping their by-products and waste materials, instead of disposing of them properly, in order to save money. Other manufacturers have been known to take advantage of a process called planned obsolescence in order to increase sales of their products over time. With universal access to goods and services provided by a sustainable means of production based on resource availability, optimization and preservation, these problems of a monetary economy can be overcome.
* Automation: Machine automation is more productive than human labor and replaces the need for people to perform repetitive and tedious tasks.
* Technological Unification of the Earth: Globally networked technological infrastructure is required to monitor planetary resources in real time, and theoretically make the most efficient use of them in solving planetary problems.
* Scientific Methodology: Decision making regarding the methods of production, what goods and services are to be provided, city planning and resource optimization, preservation and recycling will be arrived at by analysing relevant trends and data, via use of the scientific method.
* Sustainable City Systems: Utilizing a systemic approach for a sustainable global society, city systems may act as microcosm to the global network of technological infrastructure. The city system can incorporate all manufacturing, goods and services that people will use on a daily basis within the city limits. The city system may also utilize a cybernetic central computer to monitor energy and resource supply, usage and other relevant data in real time, relaying this information to other city systems that make up the macrocosm of the technologically unified globe.
I only read the excerpt. Seems like the “expert” is saying that, within the crazed paranoiac schizo system this guy dreamed up, all was logical (to him).
Maybe, but the perp is sorely lacking a sense of right and wrong if he can concoct a self-consistent internal world where the solution is taking someone out at close range in a surprise attack.
Sometimes governments decide that assassination is good to achieve a specific goal. This idea is usually tested and checked by more than one person before orders are given, some sense and balance added.
The article reminds me of “Don’t Take Me Alive” by Steely Dan: “I hear in my insides the mechanized hum of another world, where no sun is shining, no red lights flashing”
____________________________________
Joe Stack (IRS plane crasher) sums up his “manifesto” with this, a popular Karl Marx quote and a stab at Capitalism...
“The communist creed:
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed:
From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.”
-Joe Stack (1956-2010)
____________________________________
Full text here: (CNN PDF file)
******************************************************
"The woman accused of killing three colleagues at the University of Alabama in Huntsville [Amy Bishop] was a suspect in a 1993 attempted mail bombing, according to a report by The Boston Globe.
The report broke the day after it was learned that Bishop fatally shot her brother in Braintree in 1986. ..."
http://www.necn.com/02/14/10/Amy-Bishop-at-time-of-1993-mail-bomb-inv/landing.html?blockID=180453&feedID=4215
_________________________________________
"A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was "obsessed" with President Obama to the point of being off-putting."--Boston Herald, February 15, 2010
'Oddball' portrait of Amy Bishop emerges:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100215oddball_protrait_emerges_suspects_family_pals_offer_clues/srvc=home&position=0
******************************************************
___________________________________________________
From SFGate.com:
Unabomber essay urges attacks on 'techno-industrial system'
July 27, 2002 | By Dan Eggen, Dominic Gates, Washington Post
In an article published this spring by Green Anarchy, a radical environmental newsletter, [unabomber Ted] Kaczynski calls on revolutionaries to "eliminate the entire techno-industrial system" by "hitting where it hurts" and disparages the activities of most radicals as "pointless." ..."
“The fall 2001 issue of Green Anarchy published a letter from Kaczynski complaining that Subcomandante Marcos, leader of the Zapatista rebels in Chiapas, Mexico, was insufficiently pure as a revolutionary because he advocates bringing water and electricity to peasants....”
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-07-27/news/17554242_1_contention-that-modern-society-radical-environmental-newsletter-kaczynski-kaczynski-s-views/2
________________________________________________
From anarchist-org.forum:
“The Zapatista Army of National Liberation (El Ejército Zapatista de Liberación Nacional) is an anarcho communist army that is based in Mexico, mainly the poorest state in Mexico, Chiapas. In 1994, January 1st, they started their revolution and it has been increasingly successful throughout the years. Today, they are attempting non-violent struggles because the people told them too — they are truly an army of the people. However, both the people and their army are realizing how unsuccessful that tactic is.
Their ideology, Zapatismo, is a mixture of indigenous teachings, autonomism, anarchism and communism. Although other revolutions are going on in the world (like the Southern African anarcho communist movement), the Zapatista revolution was deemed the first modern revolution of our time and it’s bringing hope to people not only in Mexico, but around the world.”
http://anarchist-org.forum-gratuiti.net/t206-zapatista-anarcho-communist-revolution
******************************************************
From the Wall Street Journal
NOVEMBER 24, 2007
Oswald was a dedicated communist who had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 out of disgust with American capitalism. After becoming disillusioned with Soviet life, he returned to the U.S. in 1962. In early 1963, he bought a scoped rifle through the mail and soon used it to fire a shot (which missed) at retired general Edwin Walker, the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. In the summer of 1963, Oswald was active in street demonstrations in support of Castro. In September 1963, he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico City seeking a travel visa that would allow him to travel to Cuba.
Oswald was among the radicals of the time who saw Third World revolutionaries like Castro as the wave of the communist future. He was well aware of Kennedy's efforts to overthrow Castro's regime. As a Senate investigative committee suggested in 1975, Oswald shot Kennedy to interrupt his administration's plans to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his regime in Cuba.
Ignoring Oswald's communist links, journalists and political leaders quickly claimed the president was a martyr to civil rights. Earl Warren said that Kennedy had "suffered martyrdom as a result of the hatred and bitterness that has been injected into the life of our nation by bigots." Martin Luther King said the assassination had to be viewed against the backdrop of violence against civil rights marchers in the South. James Reston wrote in the New York Times that "something in the nation itself, some strain of madness and violence, had destroyed the highest symbol of law and order."
The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.
The Left likes moral fashions which can change as easily as a Justin Beiber t-shirt.
The ends do NOT justify the means to a moral person.
This Psych loser needs to study up on morality.
He was a pothead, lazy *ss, leftwing nutcase. Go over to DU and you can meet a few more of his type.
The real cause of the Arizona murders is the culture that has been created in America due to the 60s counter-culture and sexual revolution movements that still persist today.
People are taught in this culture to deny virtue and deny God and to be free-spirits and experiment with different value systems. They then go on to form perverted identities with a distorted sense of morality and virtue.
Our culture has no limits anymore in regards to how it denies virtue and how it perverts morality. In our media the violence is extreme, the sexual perversion is extreme, the attacks on traditional morality are also extreme. And all of this is being progressively targeted at younger and younger children all of the time.
Many murderous killers such as this kid have even been telling us that themselves. This kid talked about how society was using ‘mind control’. Manson wore it on his sleeve even and preached that our own children were going to turn against us.
I am not trying to claim that this kid was a victim because we still always make our own choices but it is the left-wing which is guilty by nature of the culture wars for this. They are promoting this type of perversion of morality thus creating a identity crisis for youth all of the time. Thus we have people such as this kid who form perverted or distorted identities.
Here’s what I know: From my perspective, the electric chair acts with no moral quims, reservations, or hesitations....at all. =.=
Conclusion... keep guns out of the hands of Vulcans.
“Loughner Acted, from His Perspective, in a Moral Fashion”
This means alot coming from Germans.
Mmm...yeah. Of course, his perspective is at the very least deeply strange, if not technically insane.
There is little wrong with Loughner, besides the fact that he is a socipath. I do not buy the insanity schtick even for a moment.
This was not a crie of passion, it was a crime of premeditated,cold blooded murder.Sociopathic.
Nope..
Evil is evil.