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E.P.A. Approves More Ethanol in Auto Fuel (Get ready to see your mechanic and void warranties)
ny times ^ | 1/22/2011 | By MATTHEW L. WALD

Posted on 01/21/2011 11:38:03 AM PST by tobyhill

The Environmental Protection Agency said Friday that cars and light trucks in the 2001 model year and later could safely use a blend of 15 percent ethanol mixed with gasoline, up from the 10 percent standard now in much of the country. The decision means that about 62 percent of all vehicles can now use the fuel.

But the practical impact of the announcement on the fuel blend, known as E15, was not clear. An announcement in October that cars in the 2007 model year and later could use the blend has so far had little impact on retailers or drivers. A new fuel requires multiple approvals from many agencies. And retailers are typically not set up to offer an additional grade of gasoline at their pumps, meaning that if they wanted to sell E15, they would have to stop selling something else.

The ethanol industry is facing a problem selling its product because overall gasoline sales are down even while its production is up. In addition, while many cars have been produced that can run on an 85 percent ethanol blend, known as E85, very few gasoline retailers outside the Midwest actually sell the fuel. Automakers had expressed concern that the E15 blend could harm older model cars.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corn; cornfuel; e15; epa; ethanol; farmpimps; ia; mtba; ntsa
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1 posted on 01/21/2011 11:38:05 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Bone to GM and Chrysler to kill older cars and sell new.


2 posted on 01/21/2011 11:46:47 AM PST by blackdog
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To: tobyhill

It sure wrecks snowblowers after that last blizzard (MN & W. Wi) it was all over the news that was the leading cause of problems for them.


3 posted on 01/21/2011 11:47:04 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: tobyhill

If they start using that E15 garbage around here (and I’m sure they will, as many eco-mentalists as we have in this area), I just have to pray that it doesn’t finish off my 180,000-mile fifteen-year-old 5.2L Dodge V8 before I can afford to replace it. My gas mileage (what little there is of it) is already off because of E10.

I like how the crystal ball-gazers at the EPA just unilaterally decide that a 2001 engine can run on E15, and sod all what the manufacturer might say. Government by experts at its finest.

}:-)4


4 posted on 01/21/2011 11:48:20 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: tobyhill

My dead ‘91 Town Car says this is a lie.
And a local gas station was forced to close down due to all the lawsuits they were slapped with by people whose car engines were ruined by the ethanol in the gas.


5 posted on 01/21/2011 11:49:20 AM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: tobyhill

Top 3 divisions of NASCAR are going E15 this year - aargh:(


6 posted on 01/21/2011 11:51:17 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: tobyhill

Republicans need to defund the EPA and start dismantling it.


7 posted on 01/21/2011 11:51:20 AM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Moose4

‘I like how the crystal ball-gazers at the EPA just unilaterally decide that a 2001 engine can run on E15, and sod all what the manufacturer might say. Government by experts at its finest.’

My thought as well. Never mind about the facts just deem it so. Theres a lot of that going on in DC at the moment. Well, we knew libs were delusional preferring to live in a fantasy world.


8 posted on 01/21/2011 11:52:43 AM PST by 556x45
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To: tobyhill

Corn won’t grow at all on Rocky Top -Dirt’s too rocky by far
That’s why all the folks on Rocky Top
Get their corn from a jar

Rocky Top you’ll always be
Home sweet home to me
Good ol’ Rocky Top
Rocky Top Tennessee,
Rocky Top Tennessee


9 posted on 01/21/2011 11:56:16 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: tobyhill
ethanol bad
butanol good
10 posted on 01/21/2011 11:59:40 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: tobyhill

Corn Growers Lobby pays politicians well.


11 posted on 01/21/2011 12:02:50 PM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: libertarian27
Top 3 divisions of NASCAR are going E15 this year - aargh:(

I guess that's fine if your engine only has to go 500 miles and you have a squadron of medchanics and spares along.

12 posted on 01/21/2011 12:03:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: tobyhill

More intentional economic damage on the US from the Lefties


13 posted on 01/21/2011 12:05:13 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: tobyhill

I’m already getting a check engine light (oxygen sensor) every time the season mixture changes. There’s nothing wrong with the sensor, but there is too much oxygen in my exhaust.

Ethanol is an inferior fuel which gives me reduced fuel mileage as well as reduced efficiency (too lean a fuel mixture means that heat energy is being lost in oxygen in exhaust). Democrat idiots.


14 posted on 01/21/2011 12:05:32 PM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: blackdog

Bingo. Every couple of years there’s another de facto statute effectively banning a group of perfectly functioning products or making them more expensive. This looks like a slow grab for the wallet drivers that manage to maintain an older, paid-off vehicle.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 12:16:52 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Dapper 26

If the higher ethanol content does just that to older cars I would say that this is deliberate. Kill the cars on the road that are much older, these people will not be able to replace them with the new they offer because they won’t be able to afford it and VWA- LA! All these people are reduced to sporting bicycles like China overnight.


16 posted on 01/21/2011 12:17:49 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V.........................................FOR VOMIT)
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To: tobyhill

Maybe Congress should issue war bonds again. this time the $ goes to fund bio-fuel research and people like Harkin ,Grassley and Pawlenty can put their money where their big mouths are.

And all these patiotic farmers and farm pimps could invest and become overnight millionaires!!


17 posted on 01/21/2011 12:28:13 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Hoodat

In a few parts of MN, an increasing number of gasoline retailers are selling their Premium Grade Gasoline Ethanol Free.
The cost is about $0.30 per gallon higher than the ethanol laced Regular Grade.

If the retailers gasoline dispensers have only one hose be sure to pump 2 - 3 gallons into your automobile to empty the dispenser and hose of ethanol gasoline before filling your gas can for the weed eater, chain saw, mower, outboard motor or other small engines.

For each $100 of a repair bill you have to burn over 300 gallons of ethanol gas before the cost of premium is not cost efficient.

This administration has a whole new Department of Dumb Ideas.
Lists of Stations that Sell Ethanol-Free Gasoline in the U.S. and Canada:

http://pure-gas.org/


18 posted on 01/21/2011 12:30:14 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: ronnie raygun

and, Ethanol is being subsidized by the Feds to accomplish this. How stupid are we not to be raising some hell about this? I don’t what the rhetoric toned down to a whimper, we’re already here. I want the rhetoric so loud Washington will have to do something about it.


19 posted on 01/21/2011 12:38:30 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: tobyhill; zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice

That is NOT what my old. thanks to Obamarx, FORMER Chevrolet dealer told me a couple of months ago. He said to stay away from the E15 and any higher ethanol content.


20 posted on 01/21/2011 12:49:45 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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