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New development in mysterious death of John Wheeler (w/VIDEO)
WPVI-TV Action News ^ | 1-15-2011 | David Henry

Posted on 01/16/2011 2:55:22 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: smoothsailing
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Red arrow = aprox location of Wheeler house. I'd be more than a bit upset as well. (Bing Maps)

41 posted on 01/17/2011 6:29:41 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Same story with mug shots

http://www.udel.edu/udaily/2011/jul/cars072610.html


42 posted on 01/17/2011 6:37:50 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Gondring

How far is this from the # 15 bus route?


43 posted on 01/17/2011 7:54:45 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: little jeremiah; org.whodat; smoothsailing
The Wheelers were not the only ones objecting to the eyesore.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657959/posts?page=21#21 ~ nccitizen123 1/15/11 9:40 AM EST I live in Old New Castle and can certainly understand the frustration Mr. Wheeler felt. I attended one of the "public" historic commission meetings regarding the Marini property. Alot of us in town attened because we wanted answers as to why the historic building was allowed to be torn down (there was no permit in place for it's destruction) and why the new house was allowed to be almost 3 times the footprint of the original historic home. Well, the commission conveniently stepped around these issues and instead had the Marini architect go on with his list of materials to be used on the house. When a few of the locals tried to ask about the illegal destruction and excessive new footprint, they were told in so many words to shut up or wait outside if they couldn't...so much for it being a "public" meeting. It's as if the Commission was intimidated by the Marini bunch - I guess they had every right to be! P.S. The height of this house is so threatening - rumors have it that the Marini's have referred to it as a "Bed and Breakfast"...so much for her respecting the town that she supposedly wanted to build a home in and return to... - by smoothsailing

When you choose to live in an historic district, you agree to be subject to the rules and regulations. If you don't want to be subject to those rules and regulations, don't buy property there.

44 posted on 01/17/2011 9:22:01 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Match and lighter fluid...


45 posted on 01/17/2011 9:30:15 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: little jeremiah; smoothsailing; cubreporter; Chickensoup; org.whodat; toldyou
It was built from I’ve read in part of an historic park. Not good.

Soon after this story came out, I clarified that point. It's a separate parcel "carved out" from the park, not from the park itself. I haven't read this thread, but came into the middle via a ping but wanted to correct this right away.

Note that in the public meeting records, the parcel is misidentified sometimes (1.07 and 1.09 are swapped, IIRC).

Gotta run.

46 posted on 01/17/2011 9:33:30 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2650913/posts?page=95#95


47 posted on 01/17/2011 9:36:24 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: hoosiermama
How far is this from the # 15 bus route?

It's basically the same distance as his house... if we are to assume he walked north and then took Delaware up to Happy Harry's, that's 1/2 mile. The Route 15 bus stop listed on the time table is 1/10 mile closer, right up by the Happy Harry's.

But the route itself goes within 2/10 of a mile of his place, if there's a stop there. I don't have time to check that out.

There are several businesses he could have gone to before (closer than) the Happy Harry's, but that doesn't rule out a stop closer to his house. It was 6 pm so many would have been closed (Olde New Castle isn't a night-life town), and if he was in a bad mental state, he might not have thought clearly of which way to go (a closer stop would have been off Delaware, where most of the businesses are. The Happy Harry's also is a bigger place where he might have thought he could get a ride from someone he knew.

If he had a stroke or was mugged prior to the fire burning, then maybe he did that in a confused state. But a man of his background surely knows how to improvise a gelled fuel that would have been more effective if he really was trying to burn it down. (Though without his car nearby, perhaps he didn't have any gasoline handy.)

But again, without knowledge like...was he diabetic and maybe lapsing out and doing some things out of character? Did he have a CVA that progressed? There are so many pieces of information that the police have, I really hope they continue to use them well.

48 posted on 01/17/2011 9:56:48 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: hoosiermama

http://www.dartfirststate.com/information/maps/index.shtml

Checking the bus route maps now.


49 posted on 01/17/2011 9:57:34 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Gondring
One of the earliest articles referred to the briefcase as a suitcase. Traveling between states medication is often kept in original containers....too big to keep in a pocket, logically kept in the “briefcase”.

A visit to a pharmacy to replace medication stolen (and needed daily) would not be out of order and would explain why he went to Happy's instead of another location.

50 posted on 01/17/2011 10:23:04 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I'd be more than a bit upset as well.

It's understandable, Wheeler had a beautiful view that was going to be completely blocked by the huge structure the Marini's were building.

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Robert Meadus, whose property abuts Wheeler's backyard, refers to the Marini home as "that monster of a house" and compares its towering appearance to "a skyscraper."

51 posted on 01/17/2011 10:25:27 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard
Many years ago I worked with a guy (terrific, hard-working, honest fellow) who happened to be related to a prominent mob family. Some conversations at that time (early '80s) left me with the impression that there was a lot of mob in Delaware. I never forgot that, and sometimes things like this Wheeler murder(?) happen and it makes me squint.

Yeah, there's lots of influence that gets pulled, but even some Capanos sometimes get told no. After all, aren't there a few incarcerated right now?

But check out this hotel right next to I-95--many FReepers have seen it, I'm sure, but not known the story. It has sat unoccupied for more than 10 years.

The county refused to give them an occupancy permit when they discovered the hotel was built a third bigger than approved. The owners, Joseph L. Capano, Sr., and Albert Vietri, filed for bankruptcy in 2001 and they defaulted the hotel to the bank.

Now Delaware Park has it and got an occupancy permit, and they sold it to another entitity who is planning to open it. (Some say this was planned all along.)

Can you believe it that the Superior Court ruled that New Castle County had to pay Messrs. Capano and Vietri millions in damages--when they were the ones who violated the permitted construction! (But the Delaware Supreme Court overturned that decision in 2008.)

Millions have been spent to get it ready to open.


(I know that's New Castle County and not New Castle City or the Historic Area Commission, but I was commenting on your mob comment, not the Jack Wheeler case specifically.)

52 posted on 01/17/2011 10:28:34 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: hoosiermama

What’s the tie-in?


53 posted on 01/17/2011 10:30:11 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: hoosiermama
Yes...which is even more we don't know--what clothes was he wearing and did he have a briefcase/suitcase at the pharmacy? What reason did he give for wanting a ride?

I can't imagine he'd have told the pharmacist he'd been robbed and not have the pharmacist take more action or say something about it. In Wilmington, near the courthouse? I can see why the parking attendant didn't call the cops right away. But in New Castle? It's more likely he'd have done something more. I've spent time walking the night streets of New Castle...and I'd be very hesitant in Wilmington by the courthouse.

More info that the police have but we don't.

54 posted on 01/17/2011 10:36:19 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

If you find a stop near South and 6th, that’s the point nearest to his house on the Route 15, I think. But closest named stop is Delaware and 6th, IIRC.


55 posted on 01/17/2011 10:40:32 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Lancey Howard

The Marani guy (neighbor with the obnoxious big house) was a nephew to a Mr. William Q. Saienni, from his obit:

William Q. Saienni, Sr., age 79 of Hockessin, DE, passed away suddenly on Wednesday afternoon, December 5, 2001.

...He became a self-employed contractor with more than 55 years in the business. Among the several companies he founded were Material Transit, Material Trucking, Blacktop Products, and his beloved “Beaver Blacktop”....

Bill is survived by..... His nieces and nephews including Frank Marini, who was like a son to him...”

A search of Saienni brings up a lawsuit against him and others related to a LANDFILL in New Castle.

Another thread had a burlary/robbery or something conviction by someone with the last name of Saienni. It happened in the neighborhood where they figure the body of Wheeler was dumped.

Landfills, trucking, and large construction outfits have a higher than average chance of being related to the mob in the Northeast.


56 posted on 01/17/2011 11:34:47 AM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Gondring
TIE IN: IIRC are post 17 or 7

Frank and Regina Marini are from the Hockessin DE area where they have another home, Francis “Frank” Marini appears to link to a William Q. Saienni, Sr., age 79 of Hockessin, DE who died on December 5, 2001. William Q. Saienni, Sr founded several concrete paving construction companies in the Wilmington and New Castle DE area, Material Transit, Material Trucking, Blacktop Products, and his beloved “Beaver Blacktop”. The Saienni family is based in the Hockessin, DE area as was/is Frank Marini.

IN the obit of Wm S. it was stated that he thought of Frank, his nephew, as a son.

Note in one article re the arrest said he was also tied to an address in New Castle. Is the 18 yar old a nephew?

57 posted on 01/17/2011 11:38:20 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Gondring
We had a pharmacist in our church who often gave a day or two of a prescription on file in between Dr visits etc. for various reasons.

Today that couldn't happen because of stricter state laws and regular audits at the mega pharmacies. It is possible he gave him a few pill, just to hold him over, and doesn't want LEO to know. It might endanger his job or license. To mention a theft would admit his actions.

58 posted on 01/17/2011 11:45:45 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Gondring

Thanks...
more detail here
http://www.dartfirststate.com/pdfs/Statewide_Bus_Stop_120510.pdf
(bus stop listings)


59 posted on 01/17/2011 12:00:33 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Gondring; little jeremiah
It's a separate parcel "carved out" from the park, not from the park itself

From all I can gather, that appears to be true. From a legal standpoint, the Marini property is not part of Battery Park.

It appears that Jack Wheeler, Kathy Klyce, and at least some of their neighbors saw it in another way, sort of a distinction without a difference. To them the Marini properety may not have been legally "of the park"; but it was most assuredly "in the park".

This aerial view shows the Wheeler-Klyce home circled in red and the Marini structure circled in yellow. West 3rd Street serves as sort of a border between residential land and park land.

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60 posted on 01/17/2011 12:11:26 PM PST by smoothsailing
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