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Judge John M. Roll: A True American Hero
Liberty News Radio ^ | January 14th, 2011 | Richard Mack

Posted on 01/16/2011 4:37:12 AM PST by soakncider

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To: deport

>> “The shooter walked up and shot Rep. Giffords first...” <<

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Fabrication.

She wasn’t even facing the shooter when she was hit. The Initial surgeon described the temple wound as the entry wound, and the forehead wound as an obvious exit wound, and a doctor that had not even treated Giffords reversed that finding three days later.


21 posted on 01/16/2011 6:22:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

So who did the shooter shoot first?


22 posted on 01/16/2011 7:42:43 PM PST by deport
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To: deport

If you’ve been paying attention to the news, the ambulances were deliberately delayed for 18 minutes due to a report from an on the scene peace officer that called in that there were two gunmen.

This was later diffused by “questioning” an innocent person, and then dismissing the ‘theory’ that there was a second person involved. This is the standard assassination program. It worked really well in Los Angeles when Bobby Kennedy was taken out and Sirhan, who had a gun, and had fired one shot which lodged in the now missing ceiling panel took the rap.

Jared Laughner did shoot many people, but more shots than his magazine held were fired, as is witnessed by the number of injured/killed people. A woman near him prevented him from inserting a second mag.


23 posted on 01/16/2011 8:13:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor; ErnBatavia
There are at least three versions of the Judge story.

1. (the most common on the MSN) Is that he stopped by saw Giffords and then went over to “thank her” for her support. If the Judge was alone how does anyone know he went to “thank” Giffrods. This line is repeated in several stories almost word for word.

2. The Judge went to mass and then went to Safeway and spotted one of Giffords staff that he knew and went over to see what was going on.

3. Is the he was at the church cleaning as he did every Saturday and then someone told him that there was an event and he THEN went over to see Giffords. Oddly this story which I found on the latimes last week is now not accessible. I have sent them an email asking about it.

24 posted on 01/17/2011 5:16:49 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: editor-surveyor

What does all that crap have to do with Jared Laughner and who he shot?


25 posted on 01/17/2011 5:43:23 AM PST by deport
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To: mad_as_he$$

Oddly this story which I found on the latimes last week is now not accessible. I have sent them an email asking about it.


Yep they scrub stories all the time or revise the data and it’s no longer available. With a little luck maybe you can find it in a cached version somewhere on the net.

Events like these have multiple versions about what was happening or happened based upon where the person reporting was, what he saw/heard and often his/her version only has a small portion of the entire story.

Take care.......


26 posted on 01/17/2011 5:58:33 AM PST by deport
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To: deport

Never mind, its all obviously above your pay grade.


27 posted on 01/17/2011 11:05:15 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

Awwww, come on, did Loughner shoot Giffords?


28 posted on 01/17/2011 11:12:19 AM PST by deport
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To: deport

>> “Awwww, come on, did Loughner shoot Giffords?” <<

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Since the projectile didn’t remain embedded, and there were at least two guns at the venue doing the shooting, that will remain an unanswered question to honest people.
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29 posted on 01/17/2011 11:39:39 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

Got a link for the two guns that were firing rounds?


30 posted on 01/17/2011 11:46:44 AM PST by deport
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To: deport

The officer that ordered the ambulances held stated that there were two gunmen and one had not been apprehended.


31 posted on 01/17/2011 11:51:45 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

Still not apprehended as of yet, correct?

Most likely won’t be either. It will be interesting to see how many shell casings are recorvered and how many weapons they match. Lot of crap out there and until they get it all together and sorted out some of it may prove to be incorrect however well intended the orginal report indicated it to be.

We’ll see.


32 posted on 01/17/2011 12:02:22 PM PST by deport
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To: deport

The officer heard two guns because there were two guns.

I wouldn’t count on finding any casings from the gun that took the judge out.


33 posted on 01/17/2011 12:04:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor
Jared Laughner did shoot many people, but more shots than his magazine held were fired, as is witnessed by the number of injured/killed people.

Shots through one victim into another, 1 shot = two victims. 9mm ball ammo does that. So the question becomes, how many shell casings?

34 posted on 01/17/2011 12:05:38 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

I’ve fired lots of rounds of 9mm luger into redwood posts, and do not recall one ever penetrating a post.


35 posted on 01/17/2011 12:12:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

The officer heard two guns because there were two guns.


We’ll see what the final outcome is. Right now that isn’t the info being put out. Things get very hairy in a situation like this and often times all that is said or repeated isn’t the truth. Only time will tell and that may not be the entire story.


36 posted on 01/17/2011 12:20:23 PM PST by deport
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To: MileHi

So the question becomes, how many shell casings?


That will be one of the keys as to how many shooters there may have been. Right now one seems to be the focus. I read somewhere he had expended one extended clip and was trying to reload when a woman was able to keep him from inserting another clip.

Who knows what all happended but they’ll try to sort it out.


37 posted on 01/17/2011 12:34:34 PM PST by deport
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To: kenmcg

Thanks for the info.


38 posted on 01/17/2011 1:14:22 PM PST by soakncider ("The two enemies of the people are criminals and government...Thomas Jefferson)
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