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Bastardi’s Wager - A former National Weather Service meteorologist has a challenge for climate...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | January 14, 2011 | Matthew Shaffer

Posted on 01/14/2011 9:51:25 AM PST by neverdem

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To: Strategerist
Actually Bastardi is one of the better forecasters. I subscribe to his blog and more often than not, he beats the local New England forecasters by a mile and he had the most recent snowstorm pegged days before local mets even started talking about it.

The problem Bastardi creates for himself is that he is so specific on his forecasts that he sets himself up to fail. Bastardi is not one to take the safe route and predict partly cloudy with chance of snow like so many other mets do.

Instead, he'll call for say 3-6 inches of snow in Scranton, PA and 6-10 inches in Philly. Then if the storm moves 50 miles further east and Scranton only picks up a couple inches and Philly only gets about five inches, people will say his forecast busted while the mets who called for "partly cloudy with a chance of snow" will be able to claim they were right. But Bastardi wouldn't have it any other way.

Anyhow, weather forecasting is more of an art than a science and very few can be right more than 50% of the time (unless they are forecasting in say, Phoenix, Arizona). This underscores the fallacy of the global warming crowd. If we can't accurately predict the weather 7 days from now, how can we predict what will happen years or decades from now?

21 posted on 01/14/2011 10:58:44 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Actually Bastardi is one of the better forecasters. I subscribe to his blog and more often than not, he beats the local New England forecasters by a mile and he had the most recent snowstorm pegged days before local mets even started talking about it.

The problem Bastardi creates for himself is that he is so specific on his forecasts that he sets himself up to fail. Bastardi is not one to take the safe route and predict partly cloudy with chance of snow like so many other mets do.

What he actually does the vast majority of the time is simply repetitively forecast the most extreme/stormy possibility over and over again. This means his forecasts are routinely a disaster, but every once in a while he can crow about being the "first" to forecast an extreme event when it does happen.

He's claims a unique ability to forecast the formation of tropical storms/hurricanes in the Atlantic; a few years ago I actually went through all of his blog posts for a hurricane season; basically, every 2-3 days he forecast a tropical wave to develop - even for a period of several months in the season where NOTHING developed. However, because he constantly forecast tropical development, he could take credit for forecasting EVERYTHING that DID develop.

Once you learn a bit more about meteorology and objective analysis of forecasts, your admiration for Bastardi will likely turn to contempt; I've seen it happen for a lot of other people.

22 posted on 01/14/2011 11:05:31 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Paleo Conservative

But that will contribute to global warming!


23 posted on 01/14/2011 11:13:04 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: neverdem; AFPhys

Go Joe!!!!

He is so right.


24 posted on 01/14/2011 11:38:03 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kara37
They are all terrible. I don't think I have ever seen a 7 day forcast that was correct past the third day.

The only ones I have seen that are reasonably reliable is the lows that Form over Texas and come up the coast to become nor'easters. Those you can pretty much predict from more than three days out.

25 posted on 01/14/2011 11:41:18 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SamAdams76

bttt


26 posted on 01/14/2011 11:46:16 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Strategerist; SamAdams76

Are you a meteorologist?


27 posted on 01/14/2011 11:47:28 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RexBeach
He’s also a body builder, I hear.

Sicilian, too.

28 posted on 01/14/2011 11:49:17 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: metmom
I guess it would make a difference where you live.
I live in Florida, and they can never get a forecast right.
29 posted on 01/14/2011 11:52:57 AM PST by kara37
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To: neverdem
the answer seems to be “no” if you ask the academics who work in the field.

Should have been: "...the answer seems to be “no” if you ask [some] academics who work in the field [who have so publically committed themselves to AGW that they fear looking like fools to recant now]."
30 posted on 01/14/2011 11:54:08 AM PST by aruanan
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To: kara37

I’ve been on vacation there and noticed that.

We’re in NY and since we’re solidly in the prevailing south-westerlies, can see the weather systems coming from either across the country, (from out west) or up the coast.

Down in FL, you have ocean on both sides of the state and are much closer to the Trade winds. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason for what the weather there does or doesn’t do.

Hurricanes aside....

Those lows over TX do seem to be pretty reliable, but even that isn’t going to give you more than three days notice like we get. You’re too close.


31 posted on 01/14/2011 12:10:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting comments across the whole spectrum regarding Joe, on these posts.


32 posted on 01/14/2011 12:42:04 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: metmom

No, but I play one on the Internet.


33 posted on 01/14/2011 1:13:51 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

I play one in real life.

Hence the *met*mom.


34 posted on 01/14/2011 1:35:00 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Strategerist
Bastardi was right about activity, wrong about US landfall. The canes either tracked to the south, were turned out to sea in the east or weakened in the gulf. Basically due to a lack of depth in shallow water ocean heat. The Atmospheric conditions caused strong cane activity, but the water conditions did not support enough power to make significant US landfall. That has been the case ever since we entered weak solar activity levels, but hey, what are actual observations compared to million dollar computer model runs :>
35 posted on 01/14/2011 2:22:06 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: neverdem

Joe Bastardi is great. I started watching his web forecasts long before FOX News discovered him. I’ve been a fan of weather forecasting since the ‘70s when I worked outdoors year ‘round and Joe’s forecasts are the most informed and accurate of any I’ve ever seen. He totally blew away the nonsense idea that Glowbull Warming would increase the number and intensity of hurricanes.


36 posted on 01/14/2011 2:48:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: kara37
They really think that they can accurately predict the temperature 50 years from now, when they can't even tell you if it's going to rain next Friday.

You forgot the sarcasm tag.

37 posted on 01/14/2011 4:24:55 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: metmom
We’re in NY and since we’re solidly in the prevailing south-westerlies, can see the weather systems coming from either across the country, (from out west) or up the coast.

What part of NY? Not the western tier, I take it.

38 posted on 01/14/2011 4:34:00 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Not any more. I’m in Central NY. Just enough to catch the edge of most of the nor’easters. Depending.


39 posted on 01/14/2011 4:48:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gondring

I watch those nor’easters like a hawk.

It’s kind of fun to see if I can predict where they’re going to end up and how much snow we’re going to get when the NWS won’t even commit until it’s actually snowing.


40 posted on 01/14/2011 4:50:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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