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(3rd LD) Gates says diplomatic engagement with N. Korea 'possible'(back 2 appeasement)
Yonhap News ^ | 01/14/11 | Kim Deok-hyun

Posted on 01/13/2011 10:58:02 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

(3rd LD) Gates says diplomatic engagement with N. Korea 'possible'

By Kim Deok-hyun

SEOUL, Jan. 14 (Yonhap) -- U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Friday diplomatic engagement with North Korea is "possible," but Pyongyang must first stop its "dangerous provocations and take concrete steps" to meet its international obligations.

Gates made the remarks as he started talks in Seoul with South Korean Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin to discuss concerns over the increasingly belligerent North and ways to further strengthen their deterrence against the communist state.

"With regard to next steps on North Korea, diplomatic engagement is possible, starting with direct engagement between DPRK and the South," Gates told Kim. DPRK stands for Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the North's official name.

"When or if North Korea's action shows a cause to believe that negotiations can be productive and conducted in good faith, then we could see a return to the six-party talks," Gates said.

During his earlier stops in Beijing and Tokyo this week, Gates said North Korea can prove its sincerity by declaring a moratorium on nuclear and missile tests.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 6partytalk; appeasement; dprk; gates; nkorea; northkorea; notthisshitagain; obama; obamafail; predictable; provocation; rewardingbadbehavior; sopredictable; theyneverlearn
Bob Gates, you may push talks to SK government and force them to sit down with NK after NK gives a very flimsy statement you will interpret as a sign of "good faith."

Then, don't be surprised to see bunch of S. Koreans marching in downtown Seoul demanding nuclear S. Korea, once spring comes around. The same people who had huge pro-U.S. demonstration back in Roh Moo-hyun days are now fed up. They now have general support of public, especially young people, unlike a few years ago. They are now seriously talking about arming with nukes.

SK gov has to answer for its people first, just to U.S. and China, or America's ruling Democratic Party. SK people now set up the red line: no talk until NK admits their responsibility for Cheonan's sinking and Yeonpyeong shelling. OR (SK's own) nukes. It seems like the repeat of Carter admin.

1 posted on 01/13/2011 10:58:06 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 01/13/2011 10:58:46 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


3 posted on 01/13/2011 11:00:01 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Correction:, justnot to U.S. and, China, or America's ruling Democratic Party.
4 posted on 01/13/2011 11:40:38 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The first 2012 GOP U.S. Presidential candidate to fly to Seoul, South Korea and deliver a major, televised, anti-Obama/anti-Gates/anti-Six Party charade/anti-DPRK regime talk, and present a bold, clarion, forward-thinking, policy-based "Axis of Evil" type address, in my mind, sets the stage and wins the Golden Prize. In this current environment, and with this US President, it must be done, sooner than later.

I predict that, if he steps in, Ambassador John Bolton will be the first. But Palin could fly there as well, first, and I could be wrong. For either of them, a) such a major speech denouncing Kim Jong il/Kim Jong un and Appeasement; and b) a trip to the DMZ to support front line ROK and US troops, would go very far.

Any campaign assistants/advisors/brain trusts out there listening!!?????


5 posted on 01/14/2011 12:48:51 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Years of putting N. Korea on the military/diplomatic back-burner may well precipitate nuclear war)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Like Michael Savage said , Obama is the Neville Chamberlain of our time .


6 posted on 01/14/2011 1:32:23 AM PST by sushiman
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Gate's comments pretty much ruined my day. I regret opening my browser and surfing the net. Then, just a moment ago, I turned on the TV, and saw Bob Gates deliver the same sentence in the article, that is, "With regard to next steps on North Korea, diplomatic engagement is possible, starting with direct engagement between DPRK and the South."

He is looking at SK's Defense Minister as if he were having conversation, but he sounded more like reading out pre-scripted talking points, as if to make sure every word is delivered right. So this is not a talk slipped out while they are doing some freewheeling conversation. This was deliberate "premeditated" comment. On the other hand, SK Defense Minister reiterated demand for NK's apology on Cheonan's sinking and Yeonpyeong shelling. That helped a bit, but not by much.

On Internet, the commies are already out in force jeering SK gov for not budging.

7 posted on 01/14/2011 2:28:17 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Consider who he (Gates) reports to...and none of this is a surprise.

North Korea can set their watches to it, for petes sake.

8 posted on 01/14/2011 4:06:18 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Years of putting N. Korea on the military/diplomatic back-burner may well precipitate nuclear war)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster

While Gates’ comments are disheartening, I don’t think all is lost just yet. A couple comments from the One Free Korea blog that ring true with me:

Another thing worth pointing out is that a subtle difference of opinion is emerging between South Korea and the US, something that the North will likely be keen to take advantage of.

During Gates’ meeting with Kim Gwan-jin today, both sides stressed that the Six-Party Talks can only resume when South-North dialogue begins and when the North demonstrates that it is willing to negotiate in good faith, but Gates said nothing about South Korea’s preconditions for South-North talks which include the North taking responsibility for the Cheonan and Yeonpyeong Island attacks, ceasing all further provocations, and demonstrating their sincerity towards denuclearization. Gates, on the other hand, said that the North need only formally swear off provocations and the much more nebulous “fulfill its international obligations.”

The North could exploit this difference easily. The North could butter up to the US easily by taking superficial measures that feign sincerity towards denuclearization, perhaps by calling up the IAEA and formally inviting inspectors back to Yeonpyeong or rejoining the NPT. Then the dialogue fetishists in Washington will get the Obama administration to pressure the South to drop its own preconditions allowing the North to get away scot-free with two unprovoked attacks while wrangling Seoul into providing generous economic assistance and clearing a path to the even more lucrative Six-Party Revolving Door Talks.

The US government should reaffirm our commitment to our ally by publically supporting the South’s preconditions.

On the other hand couldn’t we say that by making North-South dialogue a precondition for 6-partys, Gates is effectively endorsing — “baking in” — the South’s preconditions on the Cheonnan and Yeonpyong?


9 posted on 01/14/2011 5:34:23 AM PST by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster

While I can’t stand Chris Hill (may feces be upon him), he probably has better intel available to him than we do. If he is saying there is a succession crisis, then there may very well be -

Fmr. US envoy to 6-party talks, Chris Hill, says “succession crisis” in #DPRK & it’ll be very difficult for KJU to take reigns of power.
about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck

Fmr. Amb. Hill made the remark in a speech this afternoon in Seoul.
about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck

http://twitter.com/w7voa


10 posted on 01/14/2011 6:21:02 AM PST by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott
We have learned from recent news coming out of NK that KJI is coming down hard on just about everybody. Party officials, military, ordinary people, Chinese(heavy weapons along Sino-NK border & counterespionage against China,) and S. Koreans(military provocations.)

One news even claimed that some new deployed NK units along the border have Manpads.

11 posted on 01/14/2011 7:18:54 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: jhpigott

This shows some sort of desperation. Walls are closing on them. A harsh measure is taken, but only makes things worse, which in turn makes KJI counter it with even tougher measure, yet it also fails. At least that is the way I see it.


12 posted on 01/14/2011 7:23:32 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“One news even claimed that some new deployed NK units along the border have Manpads.”

Is that recent news? I don’t recall seeing that.


13 posted on 01/14/2011 8:40:26 AM PST by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Pardon me, but what are Manpads?

Thanks.


14 posted on 01/14/2011 8:48:58 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Bipartisanship: The PC Term for Collaboration with the Enemy)
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To: jhpigott
Has not come out in English(yet.)
It was reported at the site which reported the military prison being filled with high-ranking prisoners.
15 posted on 01/14/2011 11:17:00 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: helpfulresearcher
Man Portable Air Defense System

In short, shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles and its launcher.

16 posted on 01/14/2011 11:20:33 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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