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'China’s 1st stealth fighter is product of Xi Jinping'
Korea Times ^ | 01/12/11

Posted on 01/13/2011 6:33:17 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

01-12-2011 18:45

'China’s 1st stealth fighter is product of Xi Jinping'

China intentionally made public a test flight of the J-20, its first fifth-generation stealth fighter, through the media, Tuesday, in a strategy orchestrated by Vice President Xi Jinping, reports said Wednesday.

Andrei Chang, editor of the Canadian-based Kanwa Asian Defense Monthly magazine, said Tuesday that the J-20’s test flight was just like an episode of a television drama, and this was controlled by Vice President Xi, according to Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post.

A senior U.S. defense official said President Hu Jintao and other top civilians apparently were unaware of the test flight, AFP reported Wednesday.

Chang said the drama reached a climax as the country’s first radar-evading combat aircraft made a successful debut flight, it said.

Earlier, newspapers in Hong Kong, quoting Chinese Internet media outlets, said that Xi observed runway tests, which took place at an airfield in the southwestern city of Cheungdu early this month.

Xi was elected to concurrently serve as vice chairman of the Central Military Commission during the fifth general meeting of the Chinese Communist Party’s Central Committee in October last year. Xi is expected to take over as China’s leader in two years' time.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; j20; j20xijinping; prstunt; xijinping
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1 posted on 01/13/2011 6:33:21 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; Avenger; ...

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2 posted on 01/13/2011 6:34:46 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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Well, these engines are nothing more than a hot IR target for a AIM-9 up the backside.

Also, from the looks of the photos I have seen, there seems to be two prototypes, each with a different set of engines. Take a look at these two pictures for example. I believe they are testing their prottypes with two of their own indegenous engines, probably the same two they have on their J-11 and J-11B to see which works out best for the J-20:



3 posted on 01/13/2011 6:43:58 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Or ‘jinping’ !


4 posted on 01/13/2011 6:44:53 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Jeff Head
The top photo looks like a mod until a vectored thrust system can be implemented.

The bottom looks like something just for horizontal testing.

Two very different engine layouts for sure. Maybe a variant for secondary waves?

5 posted on 01/13/2011 6:48:52 AM PST by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

chicom bump for later........


6 posted on 01/13/2011 6:50:28 AM PST by indthkr
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To: Jeff Head

Too bad. It may evade radar but is a bull’s eye for heat seekers.


7 posted on 01/13/2011 6:51:04 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Jeff Head
Hmm....

They are clever...Those Pods?

Are they revisiting the old Convair Afterbodies to reduce Drag? Is this a high drag area for them on the airframe? Interesting...


8 posted on 01/13/2011 7:11:40 AM PST by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Jeff Head

Interesting Jeff.... Yes the “turkey feathers” are different, Note one looks like they opened up of take off as well as being of a different color.


9 posted on 01/13/2011 7:14:17 AM PST by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Jeff Head

The nozzles change configuration depending on the throttle setting.
What we’re not seeing here is thrust vectoring.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 7:18:55 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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Oh, definitely no thrust vectoring...but those are not just diferent configurations of the same nozzle, they look like completely different nozzles to me.

...and, based what we know of the two indegenous engines they have put on their own licensed built SU-27, the AL-31F on their J-11, and the newer improved version, the WS-10A on their J-11B, it look like they may be those engines.


11 posted on 01/13/2011 7:54:06 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Yep. I’m completely wrong.

Does this mean two different prototypes or are the engine swaps that easy?

Gotta be two different prototypes.


12 posted on 01/13/2011 8:09:16 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Little Ray
That's what I think too. They have two prototypes and are going to be testing the different engines on them.

Prototype may even be too strong a word...maybe more like technology demonstrators.

13 posted on 01/13/2011 8:23:06 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Dunno. I think this is a prototype strike aircraft. There is definitely room for a weapons bay in that monster. Maybe they could cram a couple of anti-ship missiles into it?
Be a heck of a surprise for CVNBG.


14 posted on 01/13/2011 8:33:42 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Jeff Head

Yeah, different nozzle. The right hand one is clearly shorter.
I am betting there are a lot more commonalities ‘under the hood’ between it and their flavor of SU-30. That whole aft end looks derivative to me. On a clean sheet design it would make more sense to omit the lower vertical fins to clean up the RCS from the ground.


15 posted on 01/13/2011 10:00:26 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Jeff Head
Prototype may even be too strong a word...maybe more like technology demonstrators.

I am thinking it is largely a new wrapper on a SU-30 Airframe. If that is the case it might be one with engine swaps or they could have cranked out two just as fast. Tech demonstrator seems about right.
16 posted on 01/13/2011 10:11:30 AM PST by TalonDJ
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Not an SU-30 airframe.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 1:56:39 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Nope, definitely not. Wow that son of a gun is long. And those canards are heavily loaded. Does not seem to be derivative of anything I can think of.
18 posted on 01/13/2011 2:50:56 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TigerLikesRooster
A blast from the past:


19 posted on 01/13/2011 7:55:04 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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Nope, definitely not. Wow that son of a gun is long. And those canards are heavily loaded. Does not seem to be derivative of anything I can think of.

No, not Sukhoi ...MiG. Specifically basically developed from the MiG-MFI (1.42/1.44) concept cancelled by the Russians a decade ago. Differences only in terms of intakes (MiG-MFI were slung below Typhoon style, while the J-20 has side-intakes reminiscent of those of the F-35) and better shaping around the cockpit. Otherwise it is just a tossed-around MiG-MFI design.

Drawing of the MiG-MFI in flight plus MiG-MFI parked below:


20 posted on 01/14/2011 12:31:39 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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