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Citing ‘Brainwashing,’ Arizona Declares a Latino Class Illegal
New York Times ^ | January 7, 2011 | MARC LACEY

Posted on 01/07/2011 7:20:50 PM PST by moonshinner_09

TUCSON — The class began with a Mayan-inspired chant and a vigorous round of coordinated hand clapping. The classroom walls featured protest signs, including one that said “United Together in La Lucha!” — the struggle. Although open to any student at Tucson High Magnet School, nearly all of those attending Curtis Acosta’s Latino literature class on a recent morning were Mexican-American. For all of that and more, Mr. Acosta’s class and others in the Tucson Unified School District’s Mexican-American program have been declared illegal by the State of Arizona — even while similar programs for black, Asian and American Indian students have been left untouched.

“It’s propagandizing and brainwashing that’s going on there,” Tom Horne, Arizona’s newly elected attorney general, said this week as he officially declared the program in violation of a state law that went into effect on Jan. 1.

Although Shakespeare’s “Tempest” was supposed to be the topic at hand, Mr. Acosta spent most of a recent class discussing the political storm in which he, his students and the entire district have become enmeshed. Mr. Horne’s name came up more than once, and not in a flattering light.

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Programs that promote the overthrow of the United States government are explicitly banned, and that includes the suggestion that portions of the Southwest that were once part of Mexico should be returned to that country.

I beleive it is part of their studies. They get away from Mexico saying how bad it is there and once they get here, all they can think about is Mexico.You have to admit a lot illegals from Mexico take this class and they are not interested in the U.S. history section -a-tall .Take a look at what SB 1070 has done

1 posted on 01/07/2011 7:20:51 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

The La Reconquista classes were only made illegal in Arizona. Anyone with the desire to “study” that bull**** can still do it in Central and South America. What’s the problem?


2 posted on 01/07/2011 7:24:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Repealing ObamaCare is the next "Big ****ing Deal"! Let's Roll!!!!)
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To: moonshinner_09

My wife is from Mexico and hates this kind of nativist crap.

She became a citizen of the USA of her own volition, and even before she took her Citizenship exam knew more than most Americans about our history and system of government.

She finds the invasion of illegal aliens embarrassing and wants the illegals all rounded up and deported. She yells louder than I when the lawbreakers have the audacity to call press conferences to announce their criminality.

She also suggests the USA adopt the Mexican Immigration laws, word for word. Among other provisions,
Mexican Constitution 4-5, 9: Article 33: “Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.”

If Nicaraguans and Columbians (for example) were to demonstrate and DEMAND self-inculcated “rights” in Mexico, they would be immediately arrested (vigorously!) and deported the very next day!


3 posted on 01/07/2011 7:35:16 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: moonshinner_09
Seditious brainwashing at that.

The NEA totally sucks to allow this for so long.!

4 posted on 01/07/2011 7:45:27 PM PST by Bullish
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To: freedumb2003

I like her already!


5 posted on 01/07/2011 7:47:40 PM PST by Shimmer1 (They told me I was gullible and I believed them.)
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To: freedumb2003

God bless your wife.


6 posted on 01/07/2011 7:49:09 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Bullish
>The NEA totally sucks to allow this for so long...

Allow it? They promote it.

7 posted on 01/07/2011 7:49:36 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: freedumb2003

Mr. Horne described them as wanting to topple the government. They asked how they could protest the decision.<<

HOW??....HOW?...By going back to your own country and making it as good or better then this one......

We’ve paid our dues...Time to pay yours...


8 posted on 01/07/2011 7:50:22 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: bill1952
Allow it? They promote it.

( big sigh)

9 posted on 01/07/2011 7:53:47 PM PST by Bullish
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To: moonshinner_09

Is the southwest still part of the USA?

Will it be in 20 years?


10 posted on 01/07/2011 8:02:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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Earlier this evening was a post about an old gentleman who died defending his land from drug invaders in Mexico. I thought as I read how noble and how sad that the young people in Mexico are abandoning their own country for the “freebies” north of their border. How a young Mexican of honor and resolve would prefer to defend their land and country from lawlessness and corruption instead of taking money from gringos they despise and whining about their “rights” in a country not their own for land that was sold. In reading this story I am also reminded that in every part of the world there are noble people of honor and deserving of respect.

Don Alejo Garza Tamez: True Grit
The New American ^ | Tuesday, 30 November 2010 | Bob Adelmann

Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 7:00:33 PM by Stonewall Jackson

Many still remember the movie True Grit, with John Wayne playing Rooster Cogburn, the irascible drunk who reluctantly agrees to help Mattie track down Tom Chaney who murdered Mattie’s father. The phrase “true grit” defines one who knows right from wrong and then does something about it.

When a Mexican drug cartel delivered an ultimatum to Don Alejo to give up his ranch or suffer the consequences, it was expected that within 24 hours the place would be vacant, and it would be just another asset captured by the cartel. But they didn’t know they were dealing with someone with true grit.

On Saturday, November 13, a group of toughs arrived at Don Alejo’s ranch about 10 miles outside of Ciudad Victoria, the capital city of the Mexican state of Tamaulipas. Victoria, as it is now called, is about 100 miles due south of Laredo, Texas, and about 80 miles southwest of Brownsville. The ranch sits on a pretty lake where Don Alejo had lived most of his life. He was informed that he had 24 hours to vacate the premises. He responded simply that he would be waiting for them.

The first thing Don Alejo did was to let his ranch hands leave and take the next day off. Next, he secured his home, spending most of the evening preparing for the coming assault. He placed weapons and ammunition at every door and window, thought through how he would defend the place, and went to bed.

At 4 a.m. Sunday morning, several motor vehicles pulled up in front of Don Alejo’s home, with the thugs announcing their arrival by firing rounds from their weapons into the air. What happened next caught them totally by surprise. The criminals had taken over other properties without resistance, often with the occupants running from the house, screaming for mercy.

Instead, Don Alejo began picking off one after another of the attackers. When they discovered that their return fire was proving ineffective, the thugs began throwing grenades into the house. The firefight, it is estimated, lasted no more than about 5 minutes. In the end, 4 attackers lay dead, two more mortally wounded, and Don Alejo himself lying dead in a pool of blood.

As the Mexican Marines later pieced together the story, Don Alejo, age 77, decided simply that he wasn’t going to be run off his property by outlaws. He had made many hard decisions in his life, taking over his father’s sawmill when he was a young man, travelling regularly to see his suppliers, opening several timber supply stores in the area, and dealing with difficulties that only a small business owner can appreciate. His final decision, however, was an easy one. He had all that was needed: he owned the property, he knew he would defend it even with his life if necessary, and he had the means.

As a hunter Don Alejo was intimately familiar with firearms, both long guns and small arms. He had collected guns from his childhood, and had developed a keen eye and a steady finger. He hunted deer, geese, and pigeons regularly with his friends. He co-founded the Dr. Maria Manuel Silva Hunting, Shooting and Fishing Club in Allende, Nuevo Leon.

When the Marines arrived at the scene shortly after the firefight, the smell of gun powder was still in the air. Weapons, spent brass, and empty magazines littered the house. Walls were peppered with bullet holes, and grenades had blown gaping holes in the front of the building. As Borderlandbeat.com reported,

In the last hunt of his life, Don Alejo surprised the group of assassins who wanted to impose the same law on his ranch that they had [elsewhere] in the State: the law of the jungle.

The marines who were present will never forget the scene: a 77-year old man, who before death, took out four gunmen, fighting them as the best of soldiers: with dignity, courage, and honor.

In a microcosm, Don Alejo was fighting the same fight that men of honor throughout the ages and in different lands have fought: freedom from aggression, defense against tyranny, light versus darkness.

In America, the freedom fight, at least on the surface, seems heavily to favor the armed citizen. At last count, more than 90 million Americans are armed with several hundred million weapons. They have lived in a land of freedom unknown in history, and are enjoying the fruits gained by fighters against totalitarianism since the founding of the Republic. But there are some who call the American people “sheeple,” too soft and ignorant of their own freedom and history even to know what it cost others. There are some who doubt that many will stand, in that final moment, if necessary, to defend their own lives, liberties, and property. Others look at the legacy of freedom left behind and wonder how Don Alejo came to decide that it was “this far and no farther.”

In this time of increasing uncertainty, chaos, and confusion, how many Don Alejos are there, really? There just might be a time when that question will be answered. As James Russell Lowell wrote:

Once to every man and nation, comes the moment to decide,
In the strife of truth with falsehood, for the good or evil side;
Some great cause, some great decision, offering each the bloom or blight,
And the choice goes by forever, ’twixt that darkness and that light.

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11 posted on 01/07/2011 8:17:54 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: moonshinner_09
even while similar programs for black, Asian and American Indian students have been left untouched.

Well, if such "similar programs" are really similar, then maybe they should be banned for brainwashing, too.

It's one thing to study, let's say, American Indian history and customs. It's another to make it into a typical liberal brainwashing course.

I gather that this jerk is supposed to be teaching Shakespeare's "Tempest." Maybe they should hire someone who knows what he is doing.

12 posted on 01/07/2011 8:21:39 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: moonshinner_09
No divided loyalties, no dual citizenship. It's either America or Meh-hee-co...make your choice! If you choose Meh-hee-co, don't let the door hit you on the culo on your way out.

No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

13 posted on 01/07/2011 8:47:51 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: moonshinner_09

“even while similar programs for black, Asian and American Indian students have been left untouched.”

This explains it all. These programs are not about illegals.

Equal rights (which everyone really has if they would just live it, instead of complaining) is for legal immigrants.

I’m of Irish background and when they pulled, my people, Irish immigrant males off of the ships transporting them into America and sent them off to the Civil War without a choice....(many died not having tasted the freedom they came for)....REPARATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

No....just kidding.

There are no perfect circumstances in live.....it’s inherently unfair...........get over it....LATINO’s.......your looking like a bunch of cry babies that can’t deal with anything.


14 posted on 01/07/2011 8:52:33 PM PST by Puckster
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>>Programs that promote the overthrow of the United States government are explicitly banned

Hm, not ENTIRELY true. Consider that the in the armed services the oath one gives, whether Enlisted or Officer, is to the CONSTITUTION before anything else AND, in the case of the Enlisted, the promise to obey orders is qualified with “lawful.” {If the Constitution is the highest law of the land then, obviously, any order contrary it MUST be illegal.}

Furthermore, the Declaration of Independence (which was ratified by Congress) specifically states that when a government becomes destructive to the rights and liberties of the people that it is both their duty and their right to throw off that government.


15 posted on 01/07/2011 9:01:53 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Yes, of legal citizens.

Tied in with these type of classes is the undercurrent of taking back the southwest for Mexico.

That is illegal, just like the notion that illegal immigrants have legal rights in this country.

The undercurrent is foreign intervention of an illegal kind.

16 posted on 01/07/2011 9:08:49 PM PST by Puckster
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To: Travis McGee
Ramos and Compeon redux:

Mexico says US border agent killed Mexican teenager

Snips: NOGALES, Mexico, Jan 5 – A U.S. Border Patrol agent was involved in a shooting on the Arizona border with Mexico on Wednesday that resulted in the death of a teenage boy trying to cross illegally into the United States, Mexican police said.

Ramses Barron, 17, was found dead outside a hospital in Nogales, Sonora, in the early hours of Wednesday with a wound from a bullet fired by the Border Patrol agent, Sonora state police said citing

Frustrated by tighter security on the U.S.-Mexico border, illegal immigrants and drug traffickers regularly pelt U.S. agents with rocks, take shots and even throw gasoline bombs.

Border Patrol agents are wary of using their weapons as shootings of illegal immigrants have raised tensions between the United States and Mexico in the past.

In June, the fatal shooting of a Mexican teenager by a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas, provoked anger in Mexico and the Mexican government sent a formal complaint to Washington, demanding answers.

17 posted on 01/07/2011 9:15:01 PM PST by MamaDearest
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>That is illegal, just like the notion that illegal immigrants have legal rights in this country.

I do believe that even illegal immigrants could, and should, have legal rights in America. If, for example, some employer decides to not-pay his illegal-immigrant employees they SHOULD be able to present their case in court and have a fair and just hearing. Now, note that this hypothetical wronging done them does NOT entitle them to any sort of legal residency or citizenship.

In fact, it is an injustice that so many illegal immigrants are NOT severely punished and instead granted the rights lawfully acquired by their legal counterparts.


18 posted on 01/07/2011 9:20:12 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MamaDearest

And sadly the killing of a US border agent is diametrically rejoiced.


19 posted on 01/07/2011 9:23:04 PM PST by Puckster
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To: moonshinner_09

That’s because blacks, Asians and American Indians aren’t actively trying to turn the southwest into La Raza’s Aztlan.

And using a class to provide a very thin veneer to mexican racist superiority.


20 posted on 01/07/2011 9:25:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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