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Frances Fox Piven Calls for a new Cloward-Piven Strategy for Today
Pajamas Media ^ | December 30, 2010 | Ron Radosh

Posted on 12/30/2010 10:01:19 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion

Writing in The Nation magazine on May 2, 1966, sociologists Richard Cloward and his wife Frances Fox Piven published what was to become in later years one of the most famous and influential of leftist articles. Titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty,” the two socialist intellectuals developed a new so-called “crisis strategy” — that of trying to use the existing welfare system to create chaos that would weaken the corporate capitalist state and eventually foment revolution. “Discover the Networks” has a good summary of their thesis...

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Writing in the current issue, Piven presents a clarion call for a new mass movement, one that the magazine publishes as an editorial statement representing its editors. (It is currently under the magazine’s firewall.) She begins by noting that nothing is taking place to deal with ending what she claims is an unemployment rate of 15 million people. To regain the 5 percent rate of 2007, she estimates there would have to be 300,000 jobs created each month for several years, something that is next to impossible.

Thus Piven asks a question: “So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs?” In other words, the kind of action her protégé George Wiley fomented in the 70s with the NWRO. She admonishes the Left not to wait for “the end of the American empire and even the end of neoliberal capitalism,” but to up the ante at present to pressure for “big new [government] initiatives in infrastructure and green energy” that could “ward off the darkness.” Her fear is that the new Congress, instead of moving in the direction she and the Left favors, will concentrate on “deficit reduction by means of tax cuts and spending cuts.” As for President Obama, she sees him as a new version of Herbert Hoover, who foolishly meets with corporate executives and seeks to placate them.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; francesfoxpiven; piven
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Is this sedition? If not, what is it (other than the ravings of a bitter old woman whose dream of communism has never come true)?
1 posted on 12/30/2010 10:01:24 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

This is an excerpt, you can read the rest at the link below:

http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2010/12/30/cloward-piven-strategy-for-today/?singlepage=true


2 posted on 12/30/2010 10:02:53 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

At some point American’s may have to have a civil war with these people to keep them from confiscating every tidbit of freedom we posses.

Destroy neoliberal Capitalism and replace it with Grand Government (read Marxism) to save us from the Darkness?

Yes - indeed this is sedition and they are on the march for your freedom.


3 posted on 12/30/2010 10:07:18 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
What I like about these revolutionists is their ignorance as to what usually happens to those who start revolutions. Those who start revolutions are often hunted down and shot once the inevitable purges begin.

The troublemakers are eliminated once their job as useful idiots has been completed.

4 posted on 12/30/2010 10:08:30 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Yeah, that poverty sure got eliminated didn’t it?

Such “intellectuals”


5 posted on 12/30/2010 10:25:34 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Just another ugly leftist bitch. I think that’s why they’re so bitter and nasty, can’t deal with nature’s hand.


6 posted on 12/30/2010 10:30:21 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

These two don’t want to end poverty. They want to make mass poverty.


7 posted on 12/30/2010 10:33:12 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The angry crowds and riots are scheduled to begin just before the 2012 elections.


8 posted on 12/30/2010 10:36:19 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: freekitty

It’s not about ending poverty, it’s about killing capitalism.


9 posted on 12/30/2010 10:38:10 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The poor produce nothing and employ nobody.
If you “kill the rich”, then everyone is poor. There
is no incentive to perform above the rest as that
just paints a target on your back. When there is
no reward for effort (private property), there is
no incentive to work more than necessary to
sustain a minimal existence.


10 posted on 12/30/2010 10:42:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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What she wants is nothing less than outright Communism, where all the means of goods production is controlled by the state. Does Piven remember the excesses of Josef Stalin and Mao Zedeng?
11 posted on 12/30/2010 10:46:14 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

It’s aggravating that there is no way to read the article as it appears in The Nation. Useless link.


12 posted on 12/30/2010 10:51:41 PM PST by Misterioso (If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject.- Ayn Rand)
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Thus Piven asks a question: “So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs?”

They voted in November, bitch. And in the next presidential election, they'll vote again.

13 posted on 12/30/2010 11:02:07 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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“The troublemakers are eliminated once their job as useful idiots has been completed.”

Yes. But the tyrants remain. So the demise of the useful idiots is thin gruel.


14 posted on 12/30/2010 11:06:08 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

If you care to read Piven’s article, I found it at

http://www.agenceglobal.com/article.asp?id=2472

Her effort is to destroy Capitalism and replace it with, guess what?

They just call it something else.


15 posted on 12/30/2010 11:18:52 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Sounds like the old bat needs to be wheeled back to the home and sedated. Americans have their eyes on nuts like this and if the left tries to pull a Trotsky on us, we’re going to go down on them like the little boy over Japan.


16 posted on 12/30/2010 11:29:45 PM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Misterioso

See #15, I found it elsewhere


17 posted on 12/31/2010 12:33:35 AM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: Misterioso

For those who have longed to read the original article from the May, 1966 issue of The Nation but have never been able to find it, your wait is over:

http://www.thenation.com/print/article/weight-poor-strategy-end-poverty

There it is, in all its glory.

Read it and weep, my friends, the call to arms to end what The Founders began two centuries ago.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. “


18 posted on 12/31/2010 3:18:48 AM PST by turfmann
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To: smokingfrog

It’s about global enslavement...


19 posted on 12/31/2010 3:42:33 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I though these two had died. But no, they’re still thrashing about like typical angry lefties angry at their daddies and mommies.


20 posted on 12/31/2010 4:07:41 AM PST by AdaGray
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