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Extraterrestrials, American Exceptionalism, and the Left-Right Gap (Dems tend to believe in ET)
Townhall ^ | 12/27/2010 | Michael Medved

Posted on 12/29/2010 10:10:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Quix

That figures. None exist.

Though be well, by all means.


61 posted on 12/29/2010 9:41:33 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I don’t know if peer reviewed articles on those points exist, or not. I just don’t recall. Has not been an issue for me.

I do know that the team doing the investigations of the trace elements from landing sites is a top flight team with a rigorous protocal.

Their presentation was quite good. I suspect it’s available on YouTube. I forget the guy’s name. May look it up by and by. Not likely this week.

May the New Year lead you into increasing Peace in God’s Grace . . . purposes and will . . . with adequate provisions, safety and guidance.


62 posted on 12/29/2010 9:56:58 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: onedoug; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

It was quicker and easier than I thought.

IIRC, This is the guy:

Ted Phillips - MUFON-LA (1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4isVoIO_pAs

Ted Phillips - MUFON-LA (2 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsWQQu2UhPA

3,963 LANDING CASES FROM 92 COUNTRIES THAT GENERATED PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF ONE KIND OR ANOTHER . . . AT THE TIME OF THE VIDEO FROM

I’ve read recently that it’s well over 4,000 currently.

226 WITNESSES TO ONE SPECIFIC AREA OF FREQUENT EVENTS.

1954 . . . the woman Never owned a TV; never read newspapers; had seen only one movie—nothing to do with UFO’s. . . .

Another video about trace evidence at landing sites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yNg8yU0eUU&NR=1


63 posted on 12/29/2010 10:17:19 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.


64 posted on 12/29/2010 10:33:51 PM PST by badgerlandjim
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe in the exceptionalism of the United States and of planet Earth. We’re more likely to discover a planet shaped just like Alfred E. Newman’s head than we are to find life somewhere else in the universe.


65 posted on 12/29/2010 10:40:44 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: badgerlandjim; Las Vegas Dave

ADDING

badgerlandjim;

TO UFO PING LIST.

THX.


66 posted on 12/29/2010 10:40:52 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Ted Phillips - MUFON-LA (2 of 2)


67 posted on 12/29/2010 10:47:19 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

YO DA MAN W DA PICS.

THX.


68 posted on 12/29/2010 10:59:26 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/ufo/4304682?series=74

Questions for a UFO Expert: Bruce Maccabee on the Real X-Files, Roswell and His Own UFO Sighting.

As scientific disciplines go, UFOlogy (pronounced you-FOL-oh-gee)—the study of understanding unidentified flying objects—does not get the level of respect that’s accorded to, say, physics. Dr. Bruce Maccabee has a foot in both fields. He was an optical physicist for the U.S. Navy, now retired, and doubles as a dedicated ufologist. PM talked to Maccabee this week about his work.

Bruce Maccabee traces his involvement with UFOlogy to a lecture he attended by an UFO hunting organization called the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. At the time, he was earning his doctorate in physics at American University in Washington, D.C., and soon after the lecture, he signed up to volunteer for the Committee’s office. Maccabee has since gone on to investigate dozens of UFO incidents including the Trent Farm incident of 1950, and he has written more than a hundred papers as one of the preeminent voices in the formal science of removing the “un” from “unidentified flying objects.”

PM: What is the FBI’s “flying-disc file”?
Maccabee: The FBI’s flying-disc file began in the summer of 1947 after sightings of what we now call UFOs began in earnest. A sighting in Mount Rainer, Washington, was the first such event to be publicized in national newspapers in the United States. Kenneth Arnold, the witness and an experienced pilot, talked about semicircular craft traveling at great speed and flipping and flashing as they bounced along. He said it was somewhat like skipping a saucer on the water, which led to some clever newsman coining “flying saucers.” A barrage of flying saucer sightings followed, including reports from Air Force officers seeing unknown things fly over their bases. On July 10, top Air Force intelligence generals asked the FBI if they would investigate to see if Communist sympathizers were generating spurious, false stories about craft with extreme dynamic capabilities to scare the American people into thinking that the Soviet Union had gotten far ahead of us. That was considered subversive activity, and of course the FBI was hot on subversion at the time. The FBI investigated for two months, interviewing a dozen or so witnesses, and some of the case reports were filed under—believe it or not—”Security Matter X.” So we’re talking about the real X-Files.

What is in these X-Files?
Amid the interoffice memoranda and newspaper clippings, I realized there was some pretty hot-potato stuff. For example, it was the first time that there was any public knowledge of the FBI’s involvement with UFO investigations. J. Edgar Hoover [the long-time FBI Director] had lied in the 1960s about that. Though the FBI found no evidence of pro-Communist subversion, this arrangement opened a doorway for the Air Force to contact the FBI and send more UFO information. From then on the FBI acted like a black hole—stuff would go in, but nothing would come out. Basically, the Air Force continued telling things about UFOs to the FBI that they did not share with the American public. In 1998, the X-Files were posted on the FBI’s website, and you can read more in my book called The UFO/FBI Connection.

What about the Roswell, New Mexico, incident of July 7, 1947, when a flying saucer allegedly crashed in the desert?
I think Roswell was covered up to the extent that people in Air Force intelligence didn’t even know about it. The FBI is involved in a piece of it, too—a document notes that telephonic conversation between Air Force people indicated that the crash remains did not fully meet the description of a weather balloon (the official explanation). For those of us on the outside, we have no hard evidence. The case for Roswell actually started in 1979 when Jesse Marcel, the Army Major who played a role in the recovery of the crash debris, started publicly saying how he thought it was an alien spaceship. Until then, Roswell had totally dropped out of UFO history.

What was your own UFO sighting like?
It was September 16, 1991, in Gulf Breeze, Florida. In November 1990 they started having nightly reports of this red light thing in the sky that very often would burst into flashes and go out. Sometimes it went from white to red or back. Mostly it was one object, but sometimes there were multiple ones. News crews went down there several times, and from as far away as Japan and Germany. It was thought that these sightings might be gas bag balloons with flares attached—a hoax. But triangulation of an object showed that it moved at 30 miles per hour crosswind, which can only be done if you have a powered device. So if it was a hoax, you’d have to have a blimp or perhaps an unmanned aerial vehicle that carried one or more complex pyrotechnic display devices. It couldn’t just be a regular road flare given the color changes and flashing. If this is a hoax, it’s a major one. I thought I had better go. So one night we’re out there at the south end of the Pensacola Bay Bridge and a lady yelled, “There it is!” I looked up in the sky and saw a spot of lights. Then through my binoculars—the standard necklace for night-watching—I saw the image resolve itself into eight tiny white lights with a yellow tinge. I went ahead and tried to do my measurements. I had brought with me a “big ear,” which is a sensitive microphone for listening at a distance. I couldn’t hear a thing. The UFO moved somewhat and then disappeared. I didn’t call the guys in white coats to take me away because 30 other people saw the same thing. We got a lot of pictures of these sightings, which allowed for analysis. By knowing how big the image is on film, you can calculate its angular size out to a distance of a mile or two or 10. In this instance, it got to the point where it was like turning on a chandelier, tens of feet in diameter, at an altitude of a mile—now how the hell do you do that?


69 posted on 12/30/2010 3:35:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Thx much.

Good post.


70 posted on 12/30/2010 4:27:55 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

DR. BRUCE MACCABEE, one of the world's most distinguished UFO experts. Dr. Maccabee has worked on optical data processing, generation of underwater sound with lasers and various aspects of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) and Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) using high power lasers. He has been active in UFO research since late 1960s when he joined the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP)


71 posted on 12/30/2010 6:55:29 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Finny; Sherman Logan

Leftists just like to “muddy” any moral arguments,
because they know when their morality is judged against the standard,

their preferred lifestyle is in violation of that standard, and they know it.


72 posted on 12/30/2010 7:04:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Quix

I rather had in mind professional journals such as Science, Nature, Physical Review, etc.

Though it seems we can disagree congenially, and I´m all for that.

God´s Grace to You and Yours.


73 posted on 12/30/2010 7:10:29 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Quix; SeekAndFind; Las Vegas Dave; ASA Vet; stockpirate; US Navy Vet; cripplecreek; JoeProBono
In the early evening of November 7, 1978 - election day - my twelve year old son and I hopped into my pick-up truck and went "shining" deer (it was just before deer hunting season in Wisconsin) on one of the rural roads in our area. There was a clear moonlit sky and snow on the ground, so it wasn't murky dark out at all. As we crested the top of a knoll, my son hollered for me to stop. He was shining out to our right, east, and had spotted deer in an adjacent field. I stopped the truck and watched a bit, but got distracted by a light off to our northwest and about a quarter mile away. At first I thought it was a yardlight near a farmhouse. Then I noticed the real yardlight and the houselights.

The light that had caught my attention looked almost like a flame in the sky, directly above the farmhouse. Puzzled the hell out of me. My son kept watching his deer, so I grabbed the binoculars and looked through them at the strange light. Couldn't make out anything else. I could see lights at a nearby farmhouse a little ways ahead of us and a little to our right. Everything looked normal there. I shut the truck and headlights off and kept watching the light over the far farmhouse. It was about 4-5 house heights above and seemingly directly over the house. I rolled down my window and listened, but heard not a sound. I watched for several minutes.

Suddenly the light went out. A moment later a spotlight began shining down from that spot in the sky. It was being played slowly around and around in the fields near the farmhouse, as if in search of something. Almost like my son and me, but from a stationary spot just above the house. I figured if you were in the house you'd be able to see the light playing across the fields but would be unable to see the source. I asked my son to take a look and tell me what he thought. He was just as puzzled as I was.

I told him to shut off our shining light and we'd drive over to the far farm for a closer look. He shut off the light and I started the pick-up and turned on my headlights. That seemed to elicit a response from whatever was above the farmhouse. The searchlight went out and all went dark. As I slowly eased down the road and around the sharp left at the turn-off to the nearby farm, I saw a light from the mystery area heading our way. I stopped, a little confused and nervous. We then watched in amazement as the light came closer.

It was two lights. Two headlights shining straight out ahead of some sort of small craft, with no wings nor propellers nor rotors nor gasbag. It had no obvious means of being up where it was. My first thought was, "What is a snowmobile doing up there?" But it was a little bigger than a snowmobile, yet smaller than a full-size car. It was maybe 6 feet wide and 10-12 feet long and 3-4 feet high. It had red, green, and white running lights, but it was shaped more like a boat than any aircraft I have ever seen. It definitely looked too cramped to hold a sitting adult human, although there would be sufficient space for a person if he were lying down. We could see the underside quite clearly and could see no wheels, just what may have been skids.

It was traveling slowly in a straight line just above the treetops and passed between us and the nearby farmhouse, which was about a hundred or so feet away. It was moving at about 15-20 mph. As it got close to us we could hear what sounded like the low throbbing of a turbine engine, but what the engine was doing I have not a clue. Whatever the engine was, it must have been the source of the craft's levitation and propulsion. It was like nothing I have seen or read about before or since. Not a saucer, but a boat-like craft with headlights like a car and with no visible means of flight or maneuvering. And too small for humans to be at all comfortable. I just craned my head around and watched as it kinda ambled in a straight and level line till it was out of sight.

At the time, my son said he should have lit it up with our 200,000 candlepower shining light (an aircraft landing light I had rigged to our battery), but I'm damn glad he didn't. Woulda lit that thing up bigtime, and drawn attention to us bigtime. No thanks. There had been a recent article in the paper about an Australian guy disappearing just after reporting a light pacing his small airplane on an evening flight near the coast of Australia. I thought of that and also conjectured that the craft occupants might have been searching for cattle. There had also been an outbreak of the mysterious cattle mutilations reported in the news.

Suffice it to say I wanted no part of whatever was behind this strange craft. I'm certain it wasn't anything human. My son and I hustled back to town and told my wife, then I went over to my folks' house and told them. My wife was skeptical but urged me to contact the county sheriff's department. My mother was openminded but my dad was downright insulting with his remarks. I decided there was nothing the sheriff's department could do, and I needed no more of being scoffed at. Don't care so much about the scoffing, anymore. Just want to put the incident down in writing to leave it for others to think about. Maybe somewhere, somebody has seen something similar and will be reassured he is not alone.

74 posted on 12/30/2010 7:16:46 AM PST by badgerlandjim
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To: badgerlandjim

EXCELLENT NARRATIVE.

THX THX.


75 posted on 12/30/2010 9:51:10 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: onedoug

I understand.

Thx for your kind words.

Are you saying you found nothing interesting in those videos?


76 posted on 12/30/2010 9:52:05 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: badgerlandjim

History Channel documentary speculates about the utsuro-bune (“hollow boat”), a UFO-like craft found in paintings from the Edo Period:Japan 200 years ago


77 posted on 12/30/2010 9:55:31 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: badgerlandjim
Required browsing site for UFO related information:
Cow Abduction

Make sure to "roll over" the grazing cow at the top of the page.

78 posted on 12/30/2010 9:57:36 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: badgerlandjim; Quix
The Disclosure Project - Two-hour Disclosure Witness Testimony
79 posted on 12/30/2010 10:04:59 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

Thx.


80 posted on 12/30/2010 10:12:03 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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