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Fjordman: Why Islam Must Be Expelled From The West
Europe News ^ | 12/23/2010 | Fjordman

Posted on 12/23/2010 1:59:36 PM PST by FromLori

On the 11th of December 2010, the first-ever suicide bombing in Scandinavia occurred when Taimour Abdulwahab, an Iraqi-born Muslim and Swedish citizen with a wife and children in Luton, Britain, was carrying explosives and mistakenly set off an explosion near a busy Christmas shopping street in Stockholm just before he could murder dozens of people.

Foreign Minister Carl Bildt, who is a passionate promoter of having Turkey as a full member of the European Union and Islam as an established part of European culture, stated that “We were extremely lucky... I mean minutes and just a couple of hundred metres from where it would have been very catastrophic.” Sweden’s intelligence agency and a news agency received an email with audio files in which a man called on “all hidden mujahedeen [Islamic holy warriors] in Europe, and especially in Sweden, it is now the time to fight back.” He criticized Sweden for its military presence in Afghanistan and its acceptance of the artist Lars Vilks, who had made some cartoons mocking Muhammad. The message warned that “now your children, daughters and sisters die like our brothers’ and sisters’ children die.”

We’ve been told for years that suicide bombers who blow themselves up in civilian areas in Israel are “freedom fighters struggling against Israeli occupation.” Does that mean that this Muslim blew himself up to protest against the Swedish occupation of Stockholm?

Sweden has no colonial history, at least not outside of northern Europe. It is a self-appointed champion of Third World countries and has virtually surrendered its third-largest city to immigrant mobs and substantial chunks of other cities, too. Swedish authorities are using the most extreme methods imaginable to suppress any dissent among the native people, who are being ethnically cleansed from their own land. The authorities always side with immigrants against the natives in the case of conflict. Muslims in Sweden can harass the natives as much as they want to and have access to all kinds of welfare goodies and a much higher standard of living than they would have in their own countries. In short, they have no imaginable, rational reason to complain, yet they still blow themselves up.

In Sweden, all the traditional excuses employed by Multiculturalists and Leftists throughout the Western world, fail. This leaves just one possible explanation, the only one never mentioned in Western mainstream media: That Muslims and their culture are fundamentally incompatible with our values and societies.

Hassan Moussa, who has worked as an imam at the largest mosque in the city of Stockholm, has earlier been accused of spreading double messages. What he said in his harsh speeches in Arabic didn’t match the text as translated in Swedish. A journalist warned that “a href="http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1479.htm" target="_blank">Sweden’s mosques are slowly but surely being taken over” by the Muslim Brotherhood. Following the 2010 suicide bombing, Moussa’s recommendations for how to prevent similar events in the future involved giving more power to imams and having a “zero tolerance for Islamophobia.”

Prohibiting all forms of criticism or mockery of Islam and its Prophet is an essential part of sharia, Islamic religious law. According to Islamic historical sources, individuals such as the poetess Asma bint Marwan were killed by the followers of Muhammad for having done nothing other than mocking Islam. This then became a part of the Sunna, the personal example of Muhammad and his companions, which is the most authoritative source of Islamic law next to the Koran itself. It was for the same reason that Theo van Gogh was murdered in Amsterdam in 2004. Yes, mainstream, traditional Islam today stipulates that those who mock Islam deserve to be murdered. No other major religion on this planet dictates anything similar.

It sounds nearly unbelievable to the average person that one of the largest religions on Earth, which is “respected” by the United Nations and political leaders worldwide, can be that bad, but this is unfortunately true. Not only is this the case, but the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), the largest voting bloc at the UN, is teaming up with other dictatorships and African nations as we speak to ban “Islamophobia” across the world, also in the West.

Islam is more totalitarian than the most totalitarian ideologies that have ever existed in the Western world. Even Der Führer or Comrade Stalin never expected or demanded that every single man should copy all of their personal habits and their silly little mustaches, for which we should be eternally grateful. Islam, on the other hand, stipulates that all men everywhere and for all times should copy Muhammad’s personal habits and example in minute detail.

Islam is a creed which says that men should urinate like Muhammad and that Muslims should wage a war against all other men on the planet until they, too, urinate like their Prophet. This is a provocative way of putting things, yes, but theologically speaking it is not incorrect. While Muhammad was not divine he was, as some Muslims say, the “living Koran.” John L. Esposito in Islam: The Straight Path, one of the most pro-Islamic books in existence, states:

“Muslims look to Muhammad’s example for guidance in all aspects of life: how to treat friends as well as enemies, what to eat and drink, how to make love and war. Nowhere is this seen more clearly than in the growth of Prophetic traditions….His impact on Muslim life cannot be overestimated, since he served as both religious and political head of Medina: prophet of God, ruler, military commander, chief judge, lawgiver. As a result, the practice of the Prophet, his Sunna or example, became the norm for community life. Muslims observed and remembered stories about what the Prophet said and did. These reports or traditions (hadith) were preserved and passed on in oral and written form. The corpus of hadith literature reveals the comprehensive scope of Muhammad’s example; he is the ideal religiopolitical leader as well as the exemplary husband and father. Thus when many Muslims pray five times each day or make the pilgrimage to Mecca, they seek to pray as the Prophet prayed, without adding or subtracting from the way Muhammad is reported to have worshipped. Traditions of the Prophet provide guidance for personal hygiene, dress, eating, marriage, treatment of wives, diplomacy, and warfare.”

According to sharia, non-Muslim dhimmis can on certain conditions be allowed to retain their lives under Islamic rule, provided that they remain totally submissive to Muslims at all times. Any perceived “insult,” however slight, could immediately trigger violent reactions. In practice, a mere rumor that anybody has done something which displeases Muslims can cause retaliations and murders. This is how Christians in Pakistan or elsewhere live on a daily basis, constantly fearful of Jihadist attacks, and this is how many Muslims want us to live as well. Meanwhile, our authorities, intellectuals and mass media continue to import people who are plotting to murder us while we have our genetalia screened and checked at our airports.

If a single non-Muslim says anything critical about Islam, his entire community can in principle be punished for this. Basically, this means that if one cartoonist in Germany, the USA or Denmark makes a cartoon mocking Muhammad, this could potentially trigger Jihadist terrorist attacks against his entire country for “waging a war against Islam,” because his “tribe” is held collectively responsible for his actions. This was exactly the Islamic logic behind Taimour Abdulwahab’s terror attack in Stockholm. There is no such thing as an individual in this culture; the tribe is everything. Muslims, being good hypocrites, are always the first following an Islamic terrorist attack to state that all Muslims should not be punished for the actions of a few, yet this is precisely what their own laws prescribe for non-Muslims.

Before the general elections in 2006 the Swedish Muslim League, the largest Islamic organization in the country, published a long list where they not merely requested, but essentially demanded, separate family laws for Muslims; that public schools should employ imams to teach homogeneous classes of Muslims children in the language of their original homeland. (The Swedish city of Malmö already has pre-school classes where all teaching is conducted in Arabic. This is “good for integration.”); a “mosque in every municipality,” built through interest-free loans made available by local municipalities to demonstrate “Islam’s right to exist in Sweden” and to “heighten the status of and respect for” Muslims; separation between boys and girls in gymnastics and swimming education; and laws instating Islamic holidays as public holidays for Muslims. Swedes should also ensure that all Muslims get two hours off from work during the congregational Friday prayer every week and an Islamic burial ground available in every municipality in which there are Muslims. Last, but not least, they demanded that the authorities and the already heavily censored, pro-Multicultural mass media should take even stronger steps to combat “Islamophobia” in the general public.

These demands were rejected back then, but they will be repeated, not just in Sweden but throughout the Western world. As long as we have sizeable Muslim communities here this is inevitable. Muslims are not here to live in peace as equals; they are here to colonize, subjugate, harass and dominate us. Their holy book, the Koran, demands nothing less.

But if all of this is true, how can we coexist peacefully with Muslims in our countries? The short answer is that we cannot. No matter how much you appease them, it will never be enough. As a matter of fact, since they come from a culture which respects only brute force they will despise you as weak and become more aggressive if you try to reason with them.

Their religion also states that Muslims are the “best of peoples” – the true master race – and that they are destined by Allah to rule all mankind. They are filled with illusions of grandeur and superiority, yet the harsh reality is that their societies are lagging behind those of others. This constitutes an inversion of the natural order which can only have been caused by demonic actions and must be reversed at all costs. As long as they remain in our countries, they will work to subvert and destroy us. It is quite literally a religious duty for them to do so.

So why don’t you hear this from most Western political leaders or mass media? Because they are lying to you, plain and simple. The truth is that there is no such thing as a moderate Islam; that nobody has yet managed to come up with a credible theoretical way to reform Islam; and that there are no practical indications of any softening or modernization of Islam actually taking place. Since the adherents of this creed in its present form are waging a war of annihilation against us and the civilization we have created, this leaves only one possible conclusion if we wish to retain our culture and freedom: Physical separation. Islam and those who practice it must be totally and permanently removed from all Western nations.

Potential objections can be raised to this solution. One is that it might provoke Muslims and trigger a world war. To this I will say that our mere existence as free and self-ruled peoples constitutes a provocation to them. Besides, we are already in a world war. Technically speaking, it started 1400 years ago, the mother of all wars. Against European civilization it has witnessed two main phases, the first one with the Arabs in early medieval times, and the second one with the Turks in early modern times. This is the third Islamic Jihad, and it has penetrated deeper into Europe than ever before because we don’t fight back. If the other guy walks up to you and starts punching you in the face then you are already in a fight, whether you want this or not. If you do not defend yourself properly then you have already lost.

Another objection is that expelling Muslims from the West would not end the war. They would merely continue from their original home countries, aided by missiles and modern technology. This could well be true. The separationist strategy does not imply that removing Islam from the West alone is all that will ever be required, only that this is the bare minimum that is acceptable. If Muslims remain aggressive, we retain the option of further actions, including directly targeting their holy cities of Mecca and Medina using conventional or non-conventional weapons. Having large numbers of Muslims in our societies is anyway very costly, and the aggressive fifth column in our midst will severely limit our freedom of action.

Finally, one could claim that the overall problem with the modern West is the general mass immigration and Multiculturalism promoted by our treasonous elites and that Islam merely constitutes a secondary infection. This is also partly true. No, just because Muslim immigration is especially bad does not mean that all other forms of immigration are unproblematic. Nevertheless, Muslims top the list over hostile aliens who do not belong in European or European-derived nations. The Islamic threat is real and needs to be dealt with.

The Serbian-American writer Serge Trifkovic, author of the book Defeating Jihad, has stated that the ongoing failure by their entrusted leaders to demographically protect European and European-derived nations constitutes the greatest betrayal in history. I am tempted to agree with him. In the end, the traitors and fifth columnists we have in our media and academia must be removed from power and replaced with people who are loyal to us and our nations.


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1 posted on 12/23/2010 1:59:41 PM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori
The authorities always side with immigrants against the natives in the case of conflict. Muslims in Sweden can harass the natives as much as they want to and have access to all kinds of welfare goodies and a much higher standard of living than they would have in their own countries.
In Sweden, all the traditional excuses employed by Multiculturalists and Leftists throughout the Western world, fail.

This fella is in big trouble, speaking the truth is not acceptable.

2 posted on 12/23/2010 2:04:14 PM PST by Jolla
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To: FromLori
Islam is a creed which says that men should urinate like Muhammad and that Muslims should wage a war against all other men on the planet until they, too, urinate like their Prophet. This is a provocative way of putting things, yes, but theologically speaking it is not incorrect.

I often wondered why the natives would piss sitting down all over afghanistan. We would tell them to piss like a man.

3 posted on 12/23/2010 2:07:44 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: FromLori
"This leaves just one possible explanation, the only one never mentioned in Western mainstream media: That Muslims and their culture are fundamentally incompatible with our values and societies."

In a nutshell.

4 posted on 12/23/2010 2:09:15 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: FromLori

The Infestation Grows
By
“Overwatcher”
The Muslim infestation of America is growing, spreading with epidemic quickness and proportions, almost unchecked. This is a time to know and understand the problem, not to ignore it and hope it will go away. The creeping cancer simply cannot and will not simply “coexist” alongside the American way of life, the American culture, the American greatness.
First of all, Islam does not mean “peace.” Salaam means “peace.” Islam means “Submit!” Furthermore, there are only three permissible ways for a non-believer, that is, an infidel, to submit: 1.) Convert to Islam. 2.) Continue as a second class citizen subject to the whims of Muslims, and paying protection money (Jizzya) on demand. 3.) Die. I don’t like any of those choices. Do you?

A Muslim is an adherent of Islam, one who embraces its teachings and doctrines. There is no such thing as a “moderate” Muslim – it is a myth, made up to placate stupid, politically correct wannabes, that is to say, “multicultural” imbeciles. Is there such a thing as being just a little bit pregnant? Either you are, or you are not. It’s the same thing – either you are a Muslim or you are not.

A Muslim’s supreme governing law is Sharia’ Law, Islamic Law. In America the supreme law of the land is the United States Constitution. Sharia’ Law is at odds with our Constitution. Muslims are here not to embrace and adopt the supreme law of this land; they are here to supplant it with their own supreme law - pure and simple. Andrew Whitehead, courageous patriot, on his website, www.anti-cair-net.org, has posted a quote by the Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Omar Ahmad: “Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ... Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” What further need have we of witnesses?

The United States Constitution and Sharia’ Law are mutually exclusive. They cannot both exist in the same place at the same time. One or the other must go. Make no mistake about it, Muslims in America are actively working to ensure their system is the one that becomes and remains operational in this great land of the (formerly?) brave and free. Perhaps, still brave, but will we remain free of this plague that seeks to overrun this land? No, we will be overcome if we do not recognize what is going on, face up to what is going on, and deal with it decisively. No matter what our delusional “leaders” may say in our overbloated federal government (as Ted Nugent calls it, “Fedzilla”), this is a warfare. Maybe not a shooting one yet ...

America has always welcomed legal immigration. People have come here from every country on earth, and they have embraced and adopted their new land where they are free to be all they can be. They have become Americans and have contributed marvelously to this nation’s greatness. However, Muslims come here not to assimilate, (see Omar’s quote again) but to infect and infest. As Andrew McCarthy has explained in his book, The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America, Muslims have adopted a “voluntary apartheid,” whereby they purposely do not integrate into American society. They adroitly exploit our system of laws in order to thwart us and to gain advantage after “politically correct” advantage, after every “multicultural” nonsensical advantage they can dream up. It is truly an infestation we are witnessing. But, is it not astounding that we are allowing it to happen right here and right under our very noses? This is especially disturbing after watching it happen all throughout Europe, (soon becoming Eurabia), especially in the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Sweden, and France. There are numerous “no go” areas in those lands where the police and fire personnel are afraid to venture, because control there is in the hands of the immigrant “youths.”

According to a comment made on the Atlas Shrugs website at www.atlasshrugs.com “It looks like the French government may have to update their official websites to include more than the following: French in France can’t go to 751 areas designated Muslim-Only areas. Note: The French are kind enough to list the areas, as well as provide detailed maps, of where non-Muslims mustn’t go in France.” I guess France truly doesn’t belong to the French any longer, as it appears the French have surrendered once again. Unfortunately, similar areas are presently developing and festering throughout the United States. Armed Muslim enclaves exist in many localities across the country. One example is “Islam(a)berg,” near Buffalo, New York. There are many, many more compounds strategically developing across the land. (Nay, I wear not the hat of tinfoil. I just have eyes to see, and ears to hear.).

This terribly dangerous condition I am trying to describe is rapidly approaching “super nova” status. Let me preface the danger with a few facts. Saul Alinsky wrote the infamous Rules for Radicals in 1971. Alinsky was a communist through and through, and much worse. He taught his armies of community organizers to go forth into the various neighborhoods across America and to organize the people in order to divide them and cause them to serve “the greater good.” Unfortunately one of Saul’s greatest disciples is the “present” President of the United States, Barak Hussein Obama. This is the one who most frequently voted “present” as a United States Senator from Illinois, which essentially meant that he was not doing his job. As a U.S. Senator he also, quite probably in violation of the Logan Act, (as McCarthy also mentions in his book on jihad), spent quite a bit of time “in his native Kenya,” actively and aggressively working on behalf of Obinga Odinga, (Ramma Lamma Dinga). He was actively organizing the Kenyan communities, but clearly along the lines of and consistent with an anti-United States agenda. This was not lawful activity for an official of the United States government. Of course, the Obama-worshipping incompetents who call themselves mainstream media journalists gave “the One” a free pass, and didn’t deem it newsworthy enough to report his shenanigans dutifully to the American people. To do so would have been contrary to their constant practice of slobbering all over him, gushing forth with his greatness. “Hope and Change.”

I truly do not know if Barak Hussein Obama is a Muslim, and a non-natural born United States citizen who is illegally occupying the Oval Office. His own wife, Michelle, has stated publicly that Barak’s native country is Kenya. Why would she make a statement like that if it weren’t true? I don’t know. We have seen pictures of him outfitted in his native Muslim dress. He attended Muslim schools in Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country on earth. He stated to an Egyptian official in a one-on-one meeting that he is indeed a Muslim. His father was unquestionably a Muslim, which according to Islamic Law meant the male child was also a Muslim. His school records from Indonesia indicate his religion as Muslim. Obama has publicly stated that the most beautiful sound on earth is the Muslim call to prayer. Why did he bow down to Saudi Arabian royalty? Question after question. What is the truth in this matter?

This might possibly explain why it is now the official policy of the United States government, and all its far reaching, ever-expanding bureaucratic tentacles, not to mention the term Islamic terror or Islamic terrorists or Islamic terrorism. It is no longer the War on Terror – it is the war on “man-caused disasters.” We must not speak ill of Islam, but we must praise its numerous cultural and scientific achievements and accomplishments. Why, even our own NASA has been charged with bringing a space program to the Muslim world and to extol the wondrous virtues of Islam.

This president treats our stated enemies much better than he treats our all-time greatest ally, the Nation of Israel. He bows to our enemies and betrays our friends. No wonder it looks hopeless. The willful, deliberate failure of our federal government to protect our borders is a disgrace – and a “clear and present danger” to our security and well-being. It appears that Hezbollah is now assisting the Mexican drug cartels in their latest string of car bombings in Juarez. This is a direct dereliction of duty on the part of the United States Chief Executive Officer, the Commander in Chief. It is a violation of his oath of office by which he swore to uphold and to defend the Constitution of the United States of America. This blatant failure is an impeachable offense, and should be brought to bear immediately. If you are not even allowed to name the name of the enemy, you are doomed. You have lost. This is the terrible danger I fear. “The One” who loves Muslims so much won’t allow us to name Islam as the enemy. What does that tell you about him?

It’s time to call in the exterminator. (We can’t call in the terminator – we see how much help he has been to the troubled state of “Kaleefohniya”). Make these vermin leave voluntarily, or involuntarily. But, leave they must. Of course, a “bleeding heart” liberal type would probably try and argue that we should allow them to remain if they swear allegiance to the United States Constitution (not that a liberal gives a damn about the U.S. Constitution). But, there are two problems with this approach: 1.) A true Muslim cannot subject or subordinate Islamic Law, Sharia’ Law, to anything else on earth. So, this would therefore require a Muslim to renounce Islam. We know what the penalty for that is (it rhymes with, “I will cut your head off”). 2.) The widespread, common Islamic practice of Al Taqqiyyah, which is lying or swearing falsely, just to further the cause of Islam. So, if a true Muslim were to swear allegiance to the United States and its Constitution, it would be, ipso facto, a lie! Remember the principle of mutual exclusivity. Muslims don’t assimilate. They encroach. They are encroachers. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim except in the eye of an uninformed, wishful-thinking, politically correct, multicultural liberal-minded public. The moderate Muslim exists in the land of the tooth fairy and assorted other fairies.

The danger I am trying to emphasize can be illustrated by a line from an old Bella Lugosi “Dracula” movie from the late 1930s. In the film, Professor Von Helsing stated that, “The greatest strength of the vampire lies in the fact that so few people believe he exists.” (No, I don’t believe in vampires; I’m just trying to illustrate a point). The greatest strength of the “moderate” Muslim is that so many people want to believe he exists. He doesn’t exist. Believe me. Your life is at stake! Wake up. Let us put out the evil from among us!

Lt. Col. Dave Grossman wrote that there are sheep – and it’s okay to be a sheep; just recognize that you are a sheep. Then there are wolves that come to tear and destroy the sheep. And, there are sheepdogs who seek to warn and protect the sheep. The sheepdog is always on the lookout for wolves. He is not afraid to defend the sheep. From his www.killology.com website, an article “On Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs,” (From the book, On Combat, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman).

It’s okay to be a sheep, but remember that wolves love sheep. Also keep in mind that the sheepdog can’t be everywhere.

In the case of another Islamic attack upon these United States of America,
apply “Insecticide” liberally at: 21 25’14.14”N 39 49’45.23”E elev.318m


5 posted on 12/23/2010 2:11:54 PM PST by Overwatcher
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To: FromLori

I wonder if he believed in predetonation?


6 posted on 12/23/2010 2:12:55 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: FromLori

It’s incompatible with civilization. They must not be allowed in.


7 posted on 12/23/2010 2:14:52 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: FromLori
Yes, mainstream, traditional Islam today stipulates that those who mock Islam deserve to be murdered. No other major religion on this planet dictates anything similar.

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy in London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied: “It was written in their Qu'ran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.”

8 posted on 12/23/2010 2:17:14 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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I think that it’s time we all remember the Marine Corp hymn!


9 posted on 12/23/2010 2:25:59 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: FromLori

Western nations ultimately have two choices wrt I-slam, i.e. submit to it or ban it.


10 posted on 12/23/2010 2:31:08 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: FromLori

Pursuant to FCC neutrality regulations, this thread has been deemed an incitement to religious hatred. As a result, this web site has been shut down and all persons who posted on it have been banned from accessing the internet for 10 years.

Under authority of Dear Leader through his Most Honorably Attorney General Holder.

/not yet, but soon...


11 posted on 12/23/2010 2:37:41 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: FromLori

Bookmark.


12 posted on 12/23/2010 2:52:27 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: FromLori

Spot on, but nobody’s listening. The PC rot is too deep, and the muslims are increasing their numbers in Europe and America. Most likely scenario, the muslim birth rate alone will make them prevail, and darkness will descend until the Lord is good and ready to return and sort it out.
Sorry to be so gloomy, especially just hours from Christmas Eve, but I truly feel we lack the will and wisdom to wage the needed crusades. :(


13 posted on 12/23/2010 2:54:18 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Robert Spencer wrote that “Islam is a religion of success”.

This means it is a religion of pillage and power. When Muslim societies were powerless and beaten down by infidels, Muslims became more or less indifferent to Islam’s commandments to conquer and enslave. With and solely due to the power of oil money and their hijacking of infidel technology, Muslims are empowered.

This can be easily reversed by the total destruction of Mecca, the Grand Mosque, and the black cube called the Kaaba. Eliminate these, and the Muslim is instantly cut adrift.

Christianity on the other hand, thrives during eras of persecution and martyrdom. After all, the oracle Ted Turner pronounced that “Christianity is for losers!” Even Stalin said, “Christianity is like a nail. The harder you hit it, the deeper it goes into the wood.”

Two completely polar opposites. Two completely different deities to be worshipped. One is the G-d of Creation, the other is a satanic impostor aka `Allah’.

NUKE MECCA NOW!


14 posted on 12/23/2010 3:16:29 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Buy Sabra brand Hummus, made in Israel!")
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To: FromLori

bump


15 posted on 12/23/2010 3:25:56 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: FromLori

Let the reason-capable Muslims, who are enlightened by Western Values; begin an Islamic Reformation. Let the rest of these people, who are like cockroaches albeit, ‘killer cockroaches’ who terrorize; be dealt with accordingly; i.e.. . .not in my ‘house’; not in my country; but their own ‘friendly, familiar, dark, damp, hellish environs where they can enjoy the best days of their lives. If only. . .


16 posted on 12/23/2010 3:32:14 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either. . .)
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To: FromLori

Faith to Islam and faith to Christianity are incompatible by spirit and by the divergence of the root of Mohammed and the root of Christ from the lineage limbs of Hagar and Sarah of the tree of Abraham. These faiths/roots have not been reconcillable and probably will never be. Separation has historically been the only co-existance. In spite of what Obama is trying to sell, or maybe has,Islam has not had much of a presence or role in USA until recent years of our history.


17 posted on 12/23/2010 4:22:20 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: FromLori

Amazing how much terror islam has perpetuated on the free world and instead of hunting them into extinction, we give them free run and let them dictate policy. I really am amazed.


18 posted on 12/23/2010 4:26:06 PM PST by MrClean4Hire
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The west prefers to die with PC than to be labeled ‘racist’ or anything and live.

At this point it’s probably too far gone to hope for any recovery. Maybe the Chinese can do something down the road, but the Euro/US is lost.


19 posted on 12/23/2010 4:37:06 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: FromLori
“We were extremely lucky... I mean minutes and just a couple of hundred metres from where it would have been very catastrophic.”

You call it luck. Maybe God had something to do with it.

20 posted on 12/23/2010 5:54:21 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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