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To: NoLibZone
I am confused. Will someone please enlighten me why it is bad to force such carriers as Comcast to not censor the content of web sites they carry, i.e., refuse to carry the web sites? I can understand the furor over porn on the Internet but to ban some web site because of its political views or ethnic makeup or religious views or, etc., etc. does not make sense to me.

I can also understand shutting down web sites that steal property such as songs and stories. But much beyond that seems to be to be in realm of free speech and should not be discriminated against.

Am I reading the comments all wrong?

Thank you

10 posted on 12/21/2010 3:51:09 PM PST by ProudFossil
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To: ProudFossil

Because it is yet another industry the government thinks it has the right to control.

No, it doesn’t have the right.


18 posted on 12/21/2010 3:56:28 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: ProudFossil
Will someone please enlighten me why it is bad to force such carriers as Comcast to not censor the content of web sites they carry, i.e., refuse to carry the web sites?

I am still fence-sitting too. I don't know which I would trust less -- the FCC or the Cable company. I do know the cable company throttles internet speed, and their claims to deliver certain speeds are preferenced with the coniditonal, "up to XYZ Mbps".


20 posted on 12/21/2010 3:58:03 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: ProudFossil

I’ve thought about this issue and I think that it basically boils down to who do you fear less: ISP’s or the government?

I don’t fully trust ISP’s but I trust them more than I trust the government.


24 posted on 12/21/2010 4:00:32 PM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: ProudFossil

This is a power grab which the left hopes to use to shut down conservative talk radio and web sites like Free Republic. Remember...the left doesn’t believe in free speech...they are fascist/commies...pure and simple. They are building a structure here to use to shut down opposition. Google it or visit Mark Levin’s site.


49 posted on 12/21/2010 4:33:40 PM PST by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: ProudFossil

Like ALL Democrat sponsored legislation and rule making, you can be certain that the actual intent is precisely the opposite of the way it is described.

Net neutrality? That’s just what we already had. How can the FCC’s interference possibly increase freedom and net neutrality? The actual intent is to impose something like the Democrats’ perception of “fairness”, i.ow., no criticism allowed.

Another intent is to free up the ISPs to charge more for access to certain services than others: You want Skype? 5.95 a month. You want Netflix? 6.99 a month. You want Free Republic? Sorry, no can do, “hate sites” are censored.

This is “net neutrality” for the “progressives” aka “the scum of the earth” in our society.


54 posted on 12/21/2010 4:42:39 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: ProudFossil

Net neutrality isn’t a bad thing — it’s what we’ve enjoyed for years.

‘Net neutrality’ is no different than the ‘common carrier restrictions’ that telephone companies currently operate under. When you dial in a phone number (type in a web address), the telephone company (ISP) isn’t allowed give your call a higher or lower priority than someone else’s (except maybe 911 calls.)

If I place a call from my home AT&T number to my mom who happens to be a Verizon customer, Verizon can’t charge AT&T extra or bump my call to make room for more Verizon-to-Verizon calls. As long as I pay AT&T the agreed fee for the agreed upon service, who I call using that service is none of their business.

The telephone companies still have complete control over how much they charge you for their service.

Same with the ISPs. Many already offer high bandwidth packages and if you pay for it and want to access Netflix with it, they have no business degrading or blocking the signal just because they would rather you use their movie service.


56 posted on 12/21/2010 4:43:31 PM PST by Reese Hamm
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To: ProudFossil

Personally, it’s a ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’ issue. The Dems want the government to take control of the Internet for a seemingly good thing (neutrality) but we *know* they won’t stop there. ;-) It’s just another power grab by the government to regulate something that works well without their interference. No thanks.


67 posted on 12/21/2010 4:58:44 PM PST by wvguy
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To: ProudFossil; All

You ask a great question.

Frankly, I think the intent IS good.

It is bad if ISPs start blocking content....they already throttle it for people who use a lot of bandwidth etc and that’s bad enough.

HOWEVER, the FCC is illegally doing a power grab here to regulate an area they have no right to regulate. It is disgusting, and that’s why I am opposed.

If Congress decides to allow them to, that’s different. They can’t just give themselves the power. That’s clearly unconstitutional.

Thus, the GOP is right to fight this.


86 posted on 12/21/2010 6:53:26 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: ProudFossil

This isn’t about content at this time. This is an issue between the major carriers against Google. Google is attempting to establish itself as a premiere software provider.
The major carriers are also providing software to its users and this brings them into conflict with Google. The carriers have at times blocked access to Google or have forced their users to use the software provided by the carrier.

These initial rules are to ensure that the carriers do not block or prevent internet users from accessing software from any provider on the internet. This is why Google was so heavily involved in the O’s campaign. Today’s action was the quid pro quo from the O administration to Google.

While this initial action seems evenhanded, this opens the door to the FCC actually controlling content on the internet. with the 2012 election just around the corner, all stops are going to be pulled in an effort to get the O relected.

If this action is not rolled back, the FCC will move to control the conservative and Tea Party movement. This is why today’s action by the FCC was so reprehensible.

Think Chavez, with nuclear weapons.


89 posted on 12/21/2010 7:12:18 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: ProudFossil

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703886904576031512110086694.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop=


100 posted on 12/22/2010 4:59:48 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: ProudFossil

Please read this morning’s article in the WSJ by John Fund to learn the truth about ‘net neutrality’. It will chill you to the bone. The link is in post #100.


101 posted on 12/22/2010 5:10:12 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: ProudFossil

You people have too much faith in government.Amazing. This is a conservative forum for crying out loud.

Leftist organizations including Soros is behind this net neutrality BS. Need to know any more?


124 posted on 12/22/2010 6:04:10 PM PST by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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