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1 posted on 12/21/2010 2:42:05 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Just take more from the union workers pay and let them pay for it.


2 posted on 12/21/2010 2:45:41 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: Scanian

Congress needs to change the laws to allow the States to go bankrupt. In this way the States can restructure the retirement of their employees and retirees. There is no other way. Maybe if the states did their job 10-15 years ago the States would not have been in this mess.


3 posted on 12/21/2010 2:48:25 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Scanian

Companies are not allowed to run underfunded pensions like that. They must file annually with the Dept of Labor and their funding level is defined by law.


5 posted on 12/21/2010 3:11:47 AM PST by Old_Grouch (63 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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To: Scanian

What a lot of people are forgetting is that the reason most private sector companies dropped their defined benefit plans is that government regs since ERISA have made the administration and funding of them too expensive.

The government plans are not subject to ERISA rules for actuarial soundness or nondiscrimination.


10 posted on 12/21/2010 4:52:53 AM PST by Daveinyork
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The model cannot sustain itself. Either changes have to be made, or it will collapse like a house of cards. Yet, the unions cheer everytime change is defeated. I think it is beyond time for the membership to wake up. Those in charge of the unions care for no one but themselves.


11 posted on 12/21/2010 4:58:50 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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14 posted on 12/21/2010 5:32:34 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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Nobody EVER asks how these pension liabilities were allowed to happen without funding. “Unfunded pension liabilities.” Who sold our idiot legislators that plan? Was it “The Golman Sax?” Think about this... unfunded... pension... liabilities. How DOES that happen?
25 posted on 12/21/2010 12:32:18 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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This simple solution is to funnel all of these pension beneficiaries into Obamacare where they will quickly die off...
26 posted on 12/21/2010 12:34:33 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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