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The Culture War Ain't What It Used to Be. (the Left has won, and are rightfully celebrating)
The American Prospect ^

Posted on 12/20/2010 3:10:19 PM PST by roses of sharon

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To: RC one

IBTZ.


41 posted on 12/20/2010 3:47:42 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RobRoy
“Where would the early church have been if they had put their faith in Rome?” Countries come and go. It’s just sort of painful if you are alive at the time of their going.

So true...I faced it last year, did my crying and mourning, now I am resigned. I wish most Freepers would too. Then we could get on with it, and sack DC.
42 posted on 12/20/2010 3:47:52 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: central_va

Like Sherman, I’ve got my matches ready.


43 posted on 12/20/2010 3:52:12 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: RC one
You feel good that the left has Academia, the News Media, Hollywood, most of the Judiciary, the entire Federal bureaucracy, and now the Pentagon?

So they lost a lousy immigration vote...they will find a way around it with the above institutions I listed.

They are ruthless, and that is nothing to feel good about.

44 posted on 12/20/2010 3:54:57 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I’ve already taken a few early shots.


45 posted on 12/20/2010 3:55:22 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: roses of sharon
Outside of some local issues and races in the South, we've reached a point where The Gay Menace just doesn't have much political potency anymore.

I'm not so sure about that. I don't recall the exact numbers, but there have been ten or twelve anti-gay marriage initiatives in states, and every single one of them has prevailed, even in California, and most by very big margins.

And parents seem to revolt most anywhere the gay agenda becomes too obvious in public schools.

The real problem is that courts keep overturning public initiatives, not that the public has given up. I think this article is quite a bit premature.

46 posted on 12/20/2010 3:55:25 PM PST by Will88
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To: Minipax
Waldman, and most of those with similar surnames,

Those with "similar surnames"? Meaning what?

47 posted on 12/20/2010 4:00:35 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Will88

He may be premature...but he is correct, it is only a matter of time, the public never stands up to these creeps.

No one like to be called a hater, much less the modern American citizen who could care less what Washington DC does to them. They just think this is the way things are...deal with it.

Of course they will piss and moan a bit, but they always get used to it, eventually. Especially when they only hear the other side to an issue at election time.


48 posted on 12/20/2010 4:02:16 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Steely Tom
They really are not marksmen... they kind of spray bullets out of an AK47 like a garden hose. Oh they do have an occasional sniper... but I have some recent footage that proves they do not live long... they sometimes expire before they even get off a round. The 50's and the .338 Lapua make magnificent mist art in pink.

LLS

49 posted on 12/20/2010 4:04:36 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: runninglips
I can assure you that while we have no CiC that has any balls to use nukes... (not against enemies at least) there are plenty of good men in uniform that would follow that order without hesitation. At times... they are tested just to make certain that they will do exactly that. I personally volunteer to push the button on iran and mecca and medina... but that's just me.

LLS

50 posted on 12/20/2010 4:11:02 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: roses of sharon

Much of this might depend on how much the Tea Party movement grows, and what issues it might eventually embrace in the future.

I don’t at all believe that the public approves of the repeal of DA/DT, no matter what some polls say. And I think the poll within the military was fixed from the first. Whether this issue will be raised again I don’t know, but there will be strong resistance to the gay agenda in the future.


51 posted on 12/20/2010 4:11:26 PM PST by Will88
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To: roses of sharon

I no longer believe the culture war can be won. The leftists demand unlimited pleasure without any consequences. When natural consequences do follow, the government simply picks up the tab, and the leftists blame “the hateful religious right” for the problem. But sooner or later, the government is going to run out of money to pay the bills. Or perhaps, some enemy with strong moral values (wrongheaded, maybe, but strong) will invade, and the left will simply surrender. Whichever scenario occurs, the present drift of the country is unsustainable, and its demise seems increasingly likely, perhaps even inevitable.


52 posted on 12/20/2010 4:13:22 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: RC one

>> DADT? whatever.

Cavalier, snarky.


53 posted on 12/20/2010 4:14:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Catholic Canadian

Yep, and then they will be begging for the good ol days of Christian society.


54 posted on 12/20/2010 4:17:31 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: roses of sharon
With the possible exception of John McCain, pretty much every conservative knew they were going to lose this argument eventually.

And this writer is very much ill informed if he thinks McCain has been the staunchest defender of the DA/DT policy. McCain has famously flip/flopped on it within the past calendar year.

There's a really interesting article on McCain which refers to his new role as an agitator of Dim goals rather than Republican goals as in the past. Thought about posting it, but haven't.

John McCain's new role: GOP agitator

It's a long article, but it's interesting to note that people are noticing McCain's new role.

55 posted on 12/20/2010 4:20:53 PM PST by Will88 (John McCain's new role: GOP agitator * 754 Comments * * * RSS * Email * Pr)
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To: gorush

They havent won in my house!!!!


56 posted on 12/20/2010 4:27:37 PM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: gorush

They havent won in my house!!!!


57 posted on 12/20/2010 4:27:42 PM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: roses of sharon

They’re already rolling out their usual slogans They use when they achieve another milestone in the perversion of our society-”now it’s in the past, it’s a done deal, we have ro focus all our attention on jobs/the economy/etc”. But until they achieved it, we had all the time in the world to ignore those issues while having this aspect of the fag mafia’s agenda being pushed. They do it until it’s time to roll out the next part-perhaps repeal of DOMA. This win will help repeal that one, they’ll find correlations. Everytime they take another step forward, the equal and opposite raction is to force Christians to retreat, until we stand at the edge of the cliff. Come quickly Lord Jesus.


58 posted on 12/20/2010 4:29:32 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: runninglips

Yep, nothing will make them able to live with their own consciences except a world which they create which constantly and solidly “validates” their perversion. What they don’t acknowledge is that not even that is going to work. They can’t force God to change His mind.


59 posted on 12/20/2010 4:36:01 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: Will88
Thanks, I will definitely read that.

McCain knew he could oppose DADT because his wife and daughter were doing the heavy lifting on TV and in print, for repeal.

If he were sincere he would have asked them to forgo their political campaigning on the subject...and they would have.

As soon as the MSM begins to hit him hard, he will slide back to his old ways.

60 posted on 12/20/2010 4:39:40 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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