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The Culture War Ain't What It Used to Be. (the Left has won, and are rightfully celebrating)
The American Prospect ^

Posted on 12/20/2010 3:10:19 PM PST by roses of sharon

Jonathan Bernstein makes an excellent point about the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell:

[T]his issue will now promptly go away, entirely. Oh, we'll have a bit of reporting on implementation, but seriously: does anyone think that Republicans are going to run in 2012 on re-instating DADT? Or, even less plausibly, on re-instating the ban that DADT replaced? Forget it. It's possible to believe that a DADT vote could be used in a GOP primary down the road, but it's utterly implausible to believe that the policy would ever be revived, no matter what happens in the 2012 (or any future cycle) elections.

With the possible exception of John McCain, pretty much every conservative knew they were going to lose this argument eventually. And many of them know they're going to lose the argument on marriage equality, too. As Jon Chait asks, "it was only six years ago that Republicans used the bogeyman of gay marriage to help win a presidential election. Does anybody expect that to happen again?"

Outside of some local issues and races in the South, we've reached a point where The Gay Menace just doesn't have much political potency anymore. Not that that means the culture war will disappear and all we'll talk about is economics forevermore. We've still got the anti-Muslim culture war (Rep. Peter King, the new chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, will be holding hearings on the threat posed by American Muslims, which should be a veritable hate-apalooza). And there's always the War On Secularism. Truth is, the culture war never ends, it just shifts its focus. A hundred years from now, we'll be arguing about whether advocates of the Robot Citizenship Act of 2111 hate God and America and everything we believe in.

But it's never bad to remind ourselves that with the important exception of abortion rights, the culture war moves in only one direction, and that direction is the one progressives want. In all of the spheres the culture war touches on, we're a more progressive country than we used to be. Gay people can serve in the military, women can own property, beating children is generally frowned-upon, and so on. You can say that's simply the march of modernity, but whatever you want to call it, it's a long line of victories for progressives values.

And as a bonus to the weekend's developments, this group of bigots need never be heard from again.

-- Paul Waldman


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fags
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How does it feel rightwingers....to have ceded our entire culture to the commie-left?

We gave them all of Academia, the News Media, and Hollywood. (no Conservative in their right mind would do entertainment TV..it is beneath us!)

The Military fell this weekend...next, the rest of the Churches.

1 posted on 12/20/2010 3:10:21 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

True. Just follow the dots.


2 posted on 12/20/2010 3:12:38 PM PST by newfrpr04 (Don)
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To: roses of sharon

The fags will weed themselves out after the next terrorist attack. They’ll start their “I don’t believe in war” bull**** and refuse to go to war. The taxpayers will then forget about that “born that way” bull**** and ask why they were in the military in the first place.


3 posted on 12/20/2010 3:14:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: roses of sharon

The left won decades ago...that’s why we are circling the drain now. It’s still cute to watch conservatives celebrate small battle victories, this election cycle being a good example. Hope springs eternal but keep your powder dry.


4 posted on 12/20/2010 3:15:33 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: roses of sharon

every time someone holds their nose and votes for the lesser of two evils, the line is nudged a little more.


5 posted on 12/20/2010 3:16:13 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: roses of sharon

Every advance of the progressive agenda has instigated misery and decline. Decline in the military warrior culture would generate backlash.


6 posted on 12/20/2010 3:16:51 PM PST by y6162
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To: roses of sharon
The left won decades ago...that's why we are circling the drain now. It's still cute to watch conservatives celebrate small battle victories, this election cycle being a good example. Hope springs eternal but keep your powder dry.

We live in (very) interesting times.

7 posted on 12/20/2010 3:16:55 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: roses of sharon
How much more of this humiliation do we have to take? When will the people of the South realize there is only one course to freedom:


8 posted on 12/20/2010 3:17:01 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: roses of sharon

No. What is now required of a new Republican President is a policy of MAMT; Must Ask: Must Tell.

If gays are to serve openly, let them do so. What WON’T work is to have both closeted and un-closeted gays in the service. All must openly profess their sexual “preference” or risk expulsion. There must be a service-wide inventory where ALL are required to provide this information for the record; with failure to comply fully openly and honestly will be grounds for dismissal from the service.

Our fighters HAVE to know who they are fighting alongside.


9 posted on 12/20/2010 3:17:15 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: roses of sharon
The public schools have been incubating leftists for several generations; but no one paid any attention. "Billy's teachers are just wonderful..."

Idiots.

10 posted on 12/20/2010 3:19:39 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: roses of sharon
Words of hope:

Secession belongs to a different class of remedies. It is to be justified upon the basis that the States are sovereign. There was a time when none denied it. I hope the time may come again, when a better comprehension of the theory of our Government, and the inalienable rights of the people of the States, will prevent any one from denying that each State is a sovereign, and thus may reclaim the grants which it has made to any agent whomsoever.

                            -- Jefferson Davis Pres. CSA

11 posted on 12/20/2010 3:19:49 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: roses of sharon
The absurdity of congressional leaders and their desire to be loved by degenerates is beyond description. From Family Research Council:

Meanwhile, it seems that Sen. Reid may have ignored the leaders of the Marines, Air Force, and Army--but he has no trouble taking orders from Lady Gaga. Moments after the vote, the Majority Leader tweeted the rock star: "@SenatorReid @ladygaga We Did It! ##DADT Is A Thing Of The Past." It's comforting to know that America 's future is in the hands of a Democrat who gets his policy advice from a 24-year-old circus act who wears red meat bikinis.

12 posted on 12/20/2010 3:20:15 PM PST by Faith
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To: John Valentine

Make them wear an all brown ribbon.


13 posted on 12/20/2010 3:20:49 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: roses of sharon
I see this is part of the slide of the culture going down, so it is not really a surprise.

But I do think the correction that is needed is going to be Biblical and not political. Not that I wish for that but I believe that is coming.

14 posted on 12/20/2010 3:23:01 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Stupid Obama still lacks the experience needed to be President.)
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To: roses of sharon

The rights of the many have been trampled once again by the rights of a few. Will the majority of males feel comfortable in gang showers, bathrooms, barracks? Do female heterosexuals shower with male heterosexuals? Do they sleep in the same barracks? Do they use the same bathrooms? This is a dream come true for the left, emasculating the military with a social agenda has just backdoored gay marriage and it will eventually bring it to the supreme court. If they are allowed to fight and die for thier country why then can they not marry. Slick, and our feckless politicains fell for it.


15 posted on 12/20/2010 3:23:43 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: roses of sharon
In Malmo, snipers are taking out Muslims. Apparently many Swedes feel they have had enough of the Muslim takeover of their city/culture.

Sorry, what were we talking about?

16 posted on 12/20/2010 3:24:04 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: central_va

Indiana ping. Tennessee bound.


17 posted on 12/20/2010 3:24:08 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: roses of sharon
and America takes another one in the........

18 posted on 12/20/2010 3:24:25 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: central_va

Works for me.


19 posted on 12/20/2010 3:24:41 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: gorush
Well, it's not really cute per say...but I noticed a type of denial last year...that no way would Obamacare make it thru the blue dogs, and some such nonsense.

Always waiting for the next election, always waiting for the knight in shining armor (oh, who gets good press too!)

Always waiting for those that we elect (you know, the ones that get good press, yea!)...to do something Conservative, which they never do, BECAUSE IT GETS BAD PRESS!

Always waiting for the media to like us.

20 posted on 12/20/2010 3:24:56 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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