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DREAM Act students vow revolution after act fails in the Senate (Barf Alert)
Examiner.com ^ | December 18th, 2010 2:34 pm MT. | Miguel Perez

Posted on 12/20/2010 4:22:05 AM PST by Carbonsteel

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To: Carbonsteel
The Republicans should offer this version of the DREAM Act.

After undergoing a thorough background check, an Undocumented Alien who serves in the United States Military for at least four years and receives an Honorable Discharge, will receive Legal Residency and the opportunity to become a United States Citizen one year after their discharge.

No sponsorship of relatives, no previous criminal background, no other “benefits”.

Just throwing this out there for my fellow FReepers to chew on. This way the Republicans show their willingness to “compromise”. The Left would go nuts. LOL

81 posted on 12/20/2010 10:56:32 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: GladesGuru; Ghotier
The article DOES have a point: many Hispanics will view the failure of the Dream Act as a big fat EFF YOU in their faces. We may come to rue this vote.

The relevant polls are rarely reported. But every poll I've seen of legal Hispanics consistently show that 60%-or-so favor closing the border and are dead set against any kind of amnesty.

Here in my neck of the woods, NC Texas, the locals certainly match that profile.

Put yourself in their position and judge you'd feel about the idea of illegal aliens getting all the rights of citizenship you earned.

82 posted on 12/20/2010 11:01:23 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: The Comedian

When enough people expect conflict, it happens. Stock up, boys.


83 posted on 12/20/2010 11:17:51 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: Carbonsteel

Unarmed liberals are just so cute when they start spouting off about “revolution”.


84 posted on 12/20/2010 11:21:09 AM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: DuncanWaring; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
Thanks to Duncan Waring for a very appropriate CWII ping. Hey, we just note the existence of the conditions that permit social cohesion deteriorating, and we catalog the meme of CWII that is out there in the public discourse.

Now these folks at la Raza or whatever are actual insurrectionists calling for violent rebellion against the State and race-war.

That is a five star CWII ping.

About the CWII Ping List

The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press.

Of course sometimes this is merely a figure of speech, such as "The Tea Parties are fighting a civil war for the heart of the GOP". This would not merit a CWII ping.

On the other hand someone saying something like "The events in California are reminiscent of what happened in Yugoslavia in the period proceeding the Civil War" would be.

In general most people on the CWII list are interested in this topic. Some may feel that there is a real possibility that we may arrive at that unhappy conclusion, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. (Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.)

FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic. As a practical observation and I don't think too many people here are wanting a "second civil war". In the many years of running it no one has taken that position publically.

But the question does come up, which is why I've written this mini-FAQ on it.

The CWII ping list, is maintained by Archy, Travis McGee and I.

85 posted on 12/20/2010 11:41:29 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Carley

“Frankly, that’s not our problem.”

Well it will be, if Obama manages to erase the borders between Mexico and USA...plus Canada, as a former thread suggests is happneing now.


86 posted on 12/20/2010 12:04:42 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: IMR 4350

Name your “Bull Run” and I’ll be there...


87 posted on 12/20/2010 12:29:16 PM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Carbonsteel

Breeng eet, beetches.


88 posted on 12/20/2010 12:31:20 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Ghotier
We may come to rue this vote.

I disagree. THEY will rue the day tbey ordered us to give them our money and our property and our security. The politicians who've turned a blind eye to this for so long will rue the day they didn't listen to us, as well.

89 posted on 12/20/2010 12:37:24 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater

What precisely do you have in mind?

I am very interested to know exactly what we need to do to these persons.


90 posted on 12/20/2010 12:48:54 PM PST by Ghotier
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To: DuncanWaring

Mike Huckabee is a moron. I simply know demographics.

Consider this:

We seriously started losing control of the border in 1990-1991. Do you know why?

Because between 1991 and 1993 our high schools dropped in their graduating classes by about, oh, 40%.

And they never, ever recovered.

Why?

Roe v. Wade.

I don’t say we need to do this for the penance of abortion. I’m saying we need to do this as a direct consequence of abortion: those teeming masses who came here With Out Papers aren’t here to do the jobs we’re not willing to do. They’re here to do the jobs that our children, who were supposed to do them, were murdered in abortion clinics before they were born.

The system assumes a growing or at least stable population. A shrinking population means a collapse of the entire system, starting but not ending with Social Security.

It boils down to this: if you or your girlfriend ever aborted your child, you already GOT your amnesty.


91 posted on 12/20/2010 12:52:48 PM PST by Ghotier
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To: Ghotier

LOL...


92 posted on 12/20/2010 12:53:28 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: GladesGuru

A war is not necessary. A war arising from our systematic demonization of an entire class of people—demonization that could easily end if we simply wrote laws that weren’t designed to treat illegals like untermenschen—is the fault not of the victims but of the victimizers.

And those who say we reward lawbreaking need only look at the neighborhood abortion clinic for the real thing.


93 posted on 12/20/2010 12:56:28 PM PST by Ghotier
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To: Future Snake Eater

Meaning that you don’t dare say what you think.


94 posted on 12/20/2010 12:57:44 PM PST by Ghotier
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To: Ghotier

What part of illegal do you not understand? Criminal invaders do not have a right to stay in this country.


95 posted on 12/20/2010 1:00:46 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Ghotier

Most legal Hispanics also disapprove of illegals, why should they have gone through the process, while the illegals get it for nothing.


96 posted on 12/20/2010 1:03:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: Ghotier

My thoughts are my own, but I am curious to know what you plan to do to help bolster the illegal immigrants here. You seem to be sympathetic to them or afraid of them. Not sure which. Either way, I’m not sure what you’re doing here.


97 posted on 12/20/2010 1:06:15 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: ScottinVA

They can want in one hand and crap in the other, and see which fills up.

They aint gettin my country.


98 posted on 12/20/2010 1:06:15 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Ghotier
...demonization that could easily end if we simply wrote laws that weren’t designed to treat illegals like untermenschen...

So how should we treat illegals?

As Honored Guests?

Why shouldn't we tell them to go home and knock at the front door if they want in?

99 posted on 12/20/2010 1:07:21 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Word up Homeys:

YOU DO NOT WANT TO START A REBELLION IN OUR COUNTRY!

IT WILL NOT BE PREMITTED TO HAPPEN!

WE WILL KILL ALL PARTISIPANTS and LET GOD SORT IT OUT!

THIS IS YOUR ONLY WARNING!


100 posted on 12/20/2010 1:21:27 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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