[freedumb2003]

I am on record as a science guy, but so much junk science has emerged that it is getting to be all but impossible to separate it from "real science."

Tom Weller ("Science made Stupid: One of the best books ever written!) said it best (emphasis added):

Put most simply, science is a way of dealing with the world around us. It is a way of baffling the uninitiated with incomprehensible jargon. It is a way of obtaining fat government grants. It is a way of achieving mastery over the physical world by threatening it with destruction.
Science represents mankind's deepest aspirations - aspirations to power, to wealth, to the satisfaction of sheer animal lusts.
The cornerstone of modern science is the scientific method. Scientists first formulate hypotheses, or predictions, about nature. Then they perform experiments to test their hypotheses.
There are two forms of scientific method, the inductive and the deductive.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Hi freedumb2003.

It’s hard to find graduate students who know how to research past scientific work. They also have great difficultly posing an answerable question. Either they’re not cut out for research or they were not taught how it’s done.

[Captain7seas]

As Agenda 21 is now govt. policy, use of the “Precautionary Principal” is mandated. No empircal scientific data is needed to justify action if they THINK there is a problem.

The Magnusion-Stevens Fishery Management Act regulates our nations fisheries in federal waters. It was amended in 1996 to incorporate the precautionary principal and the only other standard required is the use of the “best available science” which has come to mean that ANYTHING GOES.

This has resulted in the enviro’s having a field day in severly restricting access or in some cases shutting down fisheries altogather.

They were in the process of closing the ocean to ALL bottom fishing (73 species) for 35 years in the southeast (NC to Key West) using data from 1945 saying that red snapper were almost extinct. Fact is that there has been a RS rebuilding plan in place since 1994 and there is a historical abundance of red snapper. Fact's do not matter to them.