Posted on 12/07/2010 3:38:36 AM PST by Cardhu
Agree. Bait-and-switch article, as it begins by saying no “Blacks” but then quickly switches to “CARIBBEAM Blacks.”
The color bar and class distinction in Britain? Say it ain’t so.
Iranians will usually be referred to "arabs" (even though they arent).
I guess all my Brit friends are wrong. Silly them.
And no, they do not consider Pak as part of the Indian sub-continent. They consider them a world apart from Indian, and you can bet the Pak and Indians agree.
The idea of European egalitarianism is ridiculous. In societies in which government has tried to alter economic disparity people find other ways of putting themselves into groups. In Britain it seems that social class is defined in part on the basis of how cultured or educated one is, or thinks one is. It's just another form of elitism.
“Asian” has been since the 1950s the conventional colloquial usage in Britain to describe the peoples (of all religions and none) originating from the Indian sub-continent. The term covers, indiscriminately, Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists and others. It became current at a time when it was useful to distinguish between the two main groupings in the postwar wave of immigration from the “New Commonwealth”. The other main group, with which “Asians” were contrasted, were the “West Indians” - those deriving from the Caribbean. Incidentally, it was the latter group, rather than the Asians, who tended to be caricatured as the ‘bad immigrants’ (connotations of crime, drugs & sex etc) rather than the Asians, who were usually portrayed (at the time with some accuracy) as hard-working and law-abiding. It’s only in the last 15 years or so that this perception has changed.
No it isnt.
In Britain, ‘Asian’ means either ‘South Asian’, that is those from the ‘Indian subcontinent’ (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Goa) OR those from the Far East/Oriental areas.
Hulka, sorry but you are wrong and I have to back my fellow Brits here. Americans and British interpret ‘Asian’ differently.
In Britain, ‘Asian’ means those from the Indian subcontinent (usually the phrase is South Asian or SE Asia) and that is India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Goa. In Britain, we include Pakistan and Afghanistan as part of Asia, whereas you in America regard both as part of the ME.
‘Asian’ in Britain can also mean those whom would be called Oriental/Far Eastern: Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Koreans etc.
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