Posted on 12/04/2010 7:32:10 AM PST by jhpigott
Military officials say they have both the intelligence to predict and forces to repel such an attack
By Kwon Hyuck-chul, Staff Writer
Since North Korea’s artillery attack on Yeonpyeong Island, there has been concern that North Korea could use its long-range guns to fire on the greater Seoul area. Quoting a “source knowledgeable about North Korea,” the Tokyo Shimbun reported Thursday that an official in the North Korean Defense Ministry’s reconnaissance bureau said North Korea could launch new artillery strikes at Gyeonggi Province within the month.
A South Korean military official also said Friday that to prepare for this possibility, the military was examining ways to neutralize North Korea’s long-range artillery concentrated along the western sector of the front line.
North Korea reportedly has about 10,000 artillery pieces deployed near the DMZ. Of these, about 200 are 170mm self-propelled artillery and 200 are 240mm multiple rocket launchers deployed in the western sector, with ranges far enough to hit the greater Seoul area. The maximum range of the 240mm multiple rocket launcher is 60km, while the long-range guns can hit northern Gyeonggi Province, all of Seoul, Gwacheon, Anyang and Siheung.
Military officials say North Korea’s long-range guns could launch up to 17,000 shells at the greater Seoul area in an hour. If this were to happen, they say some 3.25 million civilians and soldiers could be killed or wounded.
The military, however, does not believe this many casualties would result. This is because the 3.25 million number is based on two unrealistic premises: that South Korea and the United States could not detect signs of an impending North Korean long-range artillery attack, and that North Korea’s long-range guns would continue to fire for an hour without taking any losses.
A military source said, “Of the 170 rounds fired at Yeonpyeong Island, about 90 landed in the sea, and of the 80 rounds that hit Yeonpyeong Island, 20 were duds, so of the 170 rounds fired, only about 60 were effective.”
Military authorities believe the low accuracy even in a surprise first strike is because North Korea’s ordinance, including its gunpowder and fuses, is old.
Since the early 1990s, the South Korean and U.S. militaries have prepared counterbattery measures to neutralize North Korea’s long-range guns in the event of an emergency.
A military official said, “ Unlike an attack on a small island like Yeonpyeong, if North Korea were going to use long-range guns to attack the capital region, with a broad area, all the artillery units along the DMZ would have to start at the same time.” The official continued, “To start such an attack, the number of troops preparing for the strike would increase noticeably at each artillery unit near the DMZ.”
North Korea’s 170mm self-propelled guns need 12 troops and its 240mm multiple rocket launchers need six troops, so to operate the roughly 400 long-range guns in the area, the artillery units alone would need about 3,600 troops. If this number of troops were to show unusual movements or the number of inter-unit communications were to suddenly increase, South Korean and U.S. military satellites or reconnaissance planes would reportedly be able to detect signs of the attack before it happened.
Even if North Korea did not commence an attack, if there is clear evidence that an attack is imminent, “aggressive counterfire” would begin. For example, if the entrances of North Korea’s long-range gun caves were to open and the guns were to emerge, South Korean and U.S. fighter-bombers and artillery like the K-9 and MLRS to collapse the cave positions.
If the surviving guns press with an attack on the Seoul area, South Korean and U.S. counter-battery radar would detect the positions of North Korea’s long-range guns, which would be attacked in responsive counterfire.
South Korea and the United States normally collect information on the position of North Korea’s long-range guns needed for counterfire operations, using Air Force reconnaissance planes to determine the position of additional guns. Based on this information, the South Korean and US militaries compose an “Integrated Tasking Order” in which it is ordered beforehand which long-range guns would be destroyed and by which method.
Military officials explain that unlike the Yeonpyeong Island attack, it is possible to knock-out many of North Korea’s long-range guns threatening the greater Seoul area before an attack. Military officials worry, however, about the public’s shock and fear and the ill effect it would have on the economy if North Korea’s long-range guns that survive an aggressive counterfire fire rounds into downtown Seoul.
[englishhani@hani.co.kr] Posted on : Dec.4,2010 13:21 KST "
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Sometimes a horrible ending is better than horrors without end.
What makes anyone think that Obama would give the order to shoot back? He would need an “OK” from Soros first.
With counter battery radar we can have rounds on the way to those guns before their first shells impact.
A strike on the Nork artillery sites from a flight of B-1, B-2 and B-52 aircraft would take out every one of them in short order. These days we probably have some kind of contingency mission loaded for bear in Guam, Diego Garcia, and any number of other locations in and out of the US just in case Kim decides to jump froggy. You don’t need weeks of sustained bombing to take the Norks out, and if you can fly cruise missiles through the entrance of the tunnels they use to store their conventional ammo....
I would also expect that we would use our own very accurate, very lethal and very much up to date MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System) for counter battery fire on those sites, since we have known their exact locations for decades. The Norks might get a number of rounds off, but the response would be inbound almost before their first warheads struck. We do watch them very closely, and even closer these days.
I seriously doubt that the Norks could sustain fire from fixed artillery positions for very long without triggering an overwhelming response within minutes. If we are going to wait for them to start shooting, we had better have some heavy bombers loaded to the teeth and ready to go when they do.
I sure hope the counter battery along the DMZ is more effective than the ROK counter-battery fire on Yeonpyang island. Doesn’t sound like those ROK K9 Howitzers had too much luck.
Who would make the decision to respond premptively in this way, commanders on the ground, SK political authority, or would they have to wait for some kind of approval from DC?
“...including its gunpowder and fuses, is old. “
That’s “fuzes.”
Lots of good information in this, very contrarian to the usual “10,000 artillery tubes! Lions tigers and bears! Oh noes!” pearl-clutching you see here at FR.
“The military, however, does not believe this many casualties would result. This is because the 3.25 million number is based on two unrealistic premises: that South Korea and the United States could not detect signs of an impending North Korean long-range artillery attack, and that North Korea’s long-range guns would continue to fire for an hour without taking any losses.”
I can buy the second part, but not the first.
The article was talking about an attack on Seoul, and that would be an entirely different matter than the shelling was. I’m pretty sure that the main Sork defense focus would be on Seoul since that’s where most of their civilians are.
We’ll see.
north moving more long range rockets and tanks to the DMZ
I completely understand that, under the Bush admin. But what is the current policy? Can our Generals in field fire without Presidential orders?
I’m sure as well. Just that the ROK counter-battery fire in this latest attack did not inspire alot of confidence.
Then after the Nork's attacked the South Koreans, the Obama administration calls for - get this - "Diplomacy" with North Korea!
The idiots and cowards are in charge emboldening petty and ordinarily weak tyrants to seize the high ground and go on the attack.
Just what "Dear Leader" needed to see move into the Whitehouse.
Julius Ceaser once said, "If you want peace, prepare for war."
Obama is preparing for unconditional surrender.
My concerns exactly. If that was an example of what could happen on a broader scale during a larger NK attack then I would very, very concerned.
Hopefully this was a real wakeup call.
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