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Marines, Air Force don’t endorse ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ repeal
Politico ^ | 12/3/10 | GORDON LUBOLD

Posted on 12/03/2010 10:42:09 AM PST by FTJM

Marine Commandant Gen. Jim Amos and Air Force chief of staff Gen. Norton Schwartz will tell a Senate panel Friday they do not recommend Congress change the law to allow gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military.

“Based on what I know about the very tough fight on the ground in Afghanistan, the almost singular focus of our combat forces as they train up and deploy into theater, the necessary tightly woven culture of those combat forces that we are asking so much of at this time and finally the direct feedback from the survey, my recommendation is that we should not implement repeal at this time,” Amos said in prepared testimony for the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Schwartz echoed the concern. “My best military judgment does not agree with the study assessment that the short-term risk to military effectiveness is low,” Schwartz said, adding that full implementation of repeal should not occur until sometime in 2012.

The service chiefs’ concerns about “open service” are not a surprise, though their “best military advice” puts them at odds with their boss, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, and their commander in chief, President Barack Obama, both of whom want Congress to repeal the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy this month.

But the recommendation of Army chief of staff Gen. George Casey — seen as a wild card in the contentious debate — is far more nuanced.

Casey represents a service that is wholly in the fight in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, where many combat forces have higher rates of concern about repeal. “Implementation of the repeal of DADT would be a major cultural and policy change in the middle of war,” he said, adding that it is also doable.

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KEYWORDS: airforce; dadt; foxholefairies; gay; homosexualagenda; marines
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1 posted on 12/03/2010 10:42:12 AM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM
Neither does the Army.
2 posted on 12/03/2010 10:43:23 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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3 posted on 12/03/2010 10:47:26 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: FTJM

The Navy does? Do they want their daily ration of “gin and sodomy”?


4 posted on 12/03/2010 10:52:13 AM PST by steve8714 (Never again should free men be asked to fight for those without the courage to turn them loose.)
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To: FTJM

I’d still like to know what serve “openly” means.
Is that a different uniform?
For that matter, how does one serve as “openly” hetero?


5 posted on 12/03/2010 10:55:05 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: FTJM

...kudos to these two senior officers for standing up to be counted...it’s the end of their career as long as Obama is in the WH


6 posted on 12/03/2010 11:00:11 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: FTJM
A modest proposal:

Create all-homosexual and all-lesbian units in the respective services and then measure their combat effectiveness and efficiency. Re-evaluate later.

That way they can serve and still leave everyone else alone.

7 posted on 12/03/2010 11:05:25 AM PST by flying_bullet (El Conservo tribe member)
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To: FTJM

Stand by for forced resignations.


8 posted on 12/03/2010 11:06:55 AM PST by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: SandRat

This is hilarious. Adm. Mullin “assured” the Congress that “the military” was cool with DADT and he knew that for sure as he is a 4 star Chair of Joint Chiefs of Staff, and he is so FULL OF IT!. I discoverd that reading Bob Woodward’s book Obama’s Wars. Mullin is a world class suck up toady, and long ago shed any semblance of his military bearing.


9 posted on 12/03/2010 11:09:37 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: flying_bullet

Yup, swim or sink. Could they cut it? I think they’d be too preoccupied doing umm... other things to be effective.


10 posted on 12/03/2010 11:10:19 AM PST by refermech
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To: shalom aleichem

Just a Pampered Purple Prince of the Pentagon.


11 posted on 12/03/2010 11:15:11 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: FTJM

Where can you find pleasure
Search the world for treasure
Learn science technology
Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
On the land or on the sea
Where can you learn to fly
Play in sports and skin dive
Study oceanography
Sign of for the big band
Or sit in the grandstand
When your team and others meet

In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can’t you see we need a hand
The Village People :

In the navy
Come on, protect the motherland
In the navy
Come on and join your fellow man
In the navy
Come on people, and make a stand
In the navy, in the navy, in the navy (in the navy)

They want you, they want you
They want you as a new recruit


12 posted on 12/03/2010 11:15:38 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: Rashputin

#@%$!!

Screwed that one up.

“The Village People:” was supposed to be at the top of the lyrics, sorry. I guess I just was dancing and singing here in my Indian Chief costume and got carried away (not!).


13 posted on 12/03/2010 11:18:55 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: SandRat

I think we have to throw in “perfumed” also to describe Mullin. Bob Woodward has little use for him. Of course Woodward is a dope also.


14 posted on 12/03/2010 11:20:13 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: FTJM

That Mullen — a fellow Navy man — supports this dishonest farce is very disappointing.


15 posted on 12/03/2010 11:34:49 AM PST by pabianice
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To: flying_bullet

Yes, I also think (if they must repeal DADT) that the homosexual troops should be isolated to their own units.


16 posted on 12/03/2010 11:39:08 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: FTJM

too bad they’d never consider offering an “instant honorable” for those who request it if this passes.
poor guys will have to suffer the rest of their contract with this mess.


17 posted on 12/03/2010 11:48:26 AM PST by stompk
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To: pabianice
"That Mullen — a fellow Navy man — supports this dishonest farce is very disappointing."

but not surprising. Why do you think he signed up to be...
In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can't you see we need a hand
In the navy
Come on, protect the motherland
In the navy
Come on and join your fellow man
In the navy
Come on people, and make a stand
In the navy, in the navy, in the navy

18 posted on 12/03/2010 11:56:25 AM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka!)
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To: ari-freedom

you forgot the “we want you for a new recruit”


19 posted on 12/03/2010 12:05:53 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: shalom aleichem

I agree for the most part, but he did FIRE RADM Sestak.


20 posted on 12/03/2010 12:15:54 PM PST by mortal19440
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