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To: swarthyguy
AKA, the Great Game in a modern form, not monarchies competing for territory and lucre, but corporations from many countries competing for natural resources and lucre.

I find your use of the word "lucre" revealing. I don't find making a profit to be shameful. In any event, no matter how you try to rationalize "the Great Game" reference used by the Prince, I doubt the host country would agree with your imputed definition of the phrase to mean mercantile engagement.

If you notice in the Ambassador's cable, para 6, "she recounted that she had hosted the American Chamber of Commerce's Members Day last week (attended by the Foreign Minister and the Deputy Minister of Trade and Commerce) which had been widely attended and a resounding success (see reftel). She then described the beneficial impact on the Kyrgyz economy of the Coalition Air Base at Manas Airport." Our ambassador is engaged in promoting US business interests and was able to attract high level participation from the host government.

But, don’t our words about democracy ring hollow when we don’t give a damn about the Theological Tyrants of Saudi and the Communist Gulags of China for our economic benefits. So, who’s fooling who.

Our first and foremost concern is promoting US strategic national interests. The world is not painted in black and white but shades of gray. The Saudis have the world's largest reserves of exportable oil, by far. It is critical to the global economy that it continues to flow freely and mostly to our allies and ourselves.

The State Department produces an annual Human Rights report for every country in the world, including Saudi Arabia. US officials admonish the Saudis regularly on the issue publicly and mostly in private. I know from personal experience how much that is done. The Saudis are loosening up some, but have a long way to go. We do the same with the Chinese.

There are limits to what we can do and still remain engaged politically. The Saudis have been very helpful in some areas behind the scenes acting as an interlocator or a banker. They [meaning private Saudis, not the government] have also been unhelpful when it comes to AQ funding radical Islamic fundamentalists.

The Obama administration has been less inclined to champion democracy and human rights on a global basis. The lack of American leadership in this area is regrettable and will in the long run, make the world a more dangerous place.

72 posted on 11/30/2010 2:29:50 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

If I consider lucre bad I would have used the phrase filthy lucre.

Just didn’t wanna say money or profits.

You’re the ones acting as if the Prince’s definition of modern commercial competition as the Great Game is somehow so insulting to America.

Fine, it’s not the Great Game.

And the justifications for our Saudi rimming has been well documented and put forward, even here on FR, when all the defenders and suckers of the Saudi Teat proclaimed loudly all the reasons we couldn’t take out the biggest financiers of jihad.

And we haven’t. And they still finance Jihad.

Peachy. A great shining success of American diplomacy and foreign policy.

We pay the Saudis for oil to help them finance Jihadis who kill Americans.

Nice.


75 posted on 11/30/2010 2:37:16 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: kabar

Excellent comments on this thread. thanks!


81 posted on 11/30/2010 3:02:24 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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