[Rockitz]

My cruise down the Huang Po to the sea from Shanghai last year left me with a feeling that while commercial construction of merchant vessels was blooming, the Chinese navy was pretty third rate. Sounds like that's still the case.

[ROTB]

Are you sure it’s as 3rd rate as you suspect?

This link is 3 years old:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html