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Fewer Jobs - More Immigrants
Center For Immigration Studies ^ | 23 November 2010 | Steven A. Camarota

Posted on 11/24/2010 9:42:03 PM PST by zeestephen

New Census Bureau data collected in March 2010 show that 13.1 million immigrants (10 million legal - 3 million illegal) arrived in the previous 10 years...During that same period total USA jobs declined by 1 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at cis.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration
WASHINGTON (November 23, 2010) – New Census Bureau data collected in March of this year show that 13.1 million immigrants (legal and illegal) arrived in the previous 10 years, even though there was a net decline of 1 million jobs during the decade. In contrast, during the 1990s job growth was 21 million, and 12.1 million new immigrants arrived. Despite fundamentally different economic conditions, the level of immigration was similar for both ten-year periods.

The report, “Immigration and Economic Stagnation: An Examination of Trends 2000 to 2010,” is online at http://cis.org/highest-decade. Among the findings:

The March 2010 data show that 13.1 million immigrants (legal and illegal) have arrived in the United States since January 2000. This is the case despite two significant recessions during the decade and a net loss of one million jobs.

Data collected in March 2000 showed one million fewer immigrants arrived from January 1990 to March 2000 (12.1 million), while 21 million jobs were created during the decade.

In 2008 and 2009, 2.4 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) settled in the United States, even though 8.2 million jobs were lost over the same period.

The new data indicate that, without a change in U.S. immigration policy, the level of new immigration can remain high even in the face of massive job losses.

Immigration is a complex process; it is not simply a function of U.S. labor market conditions. Factors such as the desire to be with relatives or to access public services in the United States also significantly impact migration.

Although new immigration remains high, the 2.4 million new arrivals represent a decline from earlier in this decade. In the two years prior to 2006, for example, there were 2.9 million arrivals, according to Census Bureau data.

There was no significant change in legal immigration during the past decade. Although the number of jobs declined in the decade just completed, 10.3 million green cards were issued from 2000 to 2009, more than in any decade in American history.

Illegal immigrants also continue to arrive, though prior research indicates that the number coming dropped significantly at the end of the decade.

Among the states with the largest proportional increase in their immigrant populations over the last decade are Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Alaska, Mississippi, Arkansas, Washington, North Carolina, Maryland, and Nebraska.

1 posted on 11/24/2010 9:42:05 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

OK so who’s OK?

Center for Immigration Studies
The Center for Immigration Studies [CIS] was founded in 1985 and is an independent, non-partisan, non-profit, research organization. The single mission of the Center for Immigration Studies is to provide reliable and accurate information to concerned citizens, policymakers, news media, and the academic community concerning the fiscal, security, social, environmental, and economic consequences of illegal and legal immigration into the United States.

The Center for Immigration Studies supports a “low-immigration, pro-immigrant” vision of the United States that admits fewer immigrants but affords a warmer welcome for those who are admitted. Thus, CIS differs from many immigration research institutions since most non-partisan think tanks presenting research on immigration - like the Pew Hispanic Center and the Migration Policy Institute - are generally in favor of higher levels of immigration. Different research institutions like the libertarian Cato Institute and the liberal Center for American Progress are also in favor of high immigration and legalizing illegal immigrants, based upon their ideological perspectives.

The Center for Immigration Studies is the nation’s only think tank focused solely on research related to U.S. immigration policy.

A Nexus search shows that the Center for Immigration Studies is one of the organizations most often quoted in the media. Its research has been featured on the front pages of USA Today, Washington Post and the New York Times. Over the last decade the Center for Immigration Studies has received about half a million dollars in research grants from the Justice Department and the Census Bureau.

Staff from the Center for Immigration Studies have testified before Congress on immigration more than any other non-governmental organization. George Borjas of Harvard, the nation’s top immigration economist, has described the Center’s work as “credible” and “reliable.”

The diverse board of directors for the Center for Immigration Studies includes former government officials, active and retired university professors, and civil rights leaders. The board includes:

CIS board Chairman Peter Nunez, former US Attorney for San Diego and the first Hispanic appointed to that position.
Frank Morris, former Dean of Graduate Studies at Morgan State University and former Executive Director of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation.
Vernon M. Briggs, Jr., Emeritus Professor of Industrial and Labor Relations at Cornell University.
T. Willard Fair: President of the Urban League of Greater Miami (Congressional Testimony: Mass Immigration vs. Black America).
CIS staff includes:

Executive Director Mark Krikorian, author of the book The New Case Against Immigration: Both Legal and Illegal.
Director of Research Steven A. Camarota who was the lead researcher for more than five years on a project for the U.S. Census Bureau evaluating the quality of its immigrant data.
Senior Policy Analyst Stephen Steinlight, former Director of Education at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council, Director of National Affairs at the American Jewish Committee, and Vice President of the National Conference of Christians and Jews.
Senior Research Fellow Jerry Kammer, winner of a Pulitzer Prize in 2006 for national reporting.
Director of Policy StudiesJessica Vaughan, lead author of report on gangs and immigration policy commissioned by the U.S. Department of Justice, and former Foreign Service Officer.
Director of National Security Policy Janice Kephart, formerly counsel to the 9/11 Commission.


2 posted on 11/24/2010 10:53:35 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: zeestephen
Please learn the difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien!
3 posted on 11/24/2010 11:32:08 PM PST by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: Bhoy
“OK so who’s OK?”

Not sure I understand your question.

Which immigrants should be let in?

I personally support unlimited immigration for Nobel Prize winners and wealth producers.

We can choose immigrants the way MIT chooses physics students and the way Harvard chooses MBA students.

And no “chain immigration.”

We currently have 10 million fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, cousins, and in-laws living in the USA, waiting for citizenship, and eligible to work or draw every welfare benefit.

4 posted on 11/24/2010 11:32:40 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: BillT
“Please learn the difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien!”

I know the difference.

I simply used the language from the Census Report and from CIS.

“Immigrant” means “Foreign Born.”

“Foreign Born” tells us nothing about citizenship or about legal status to live in the USA.

5 posted on 11/24/2010 11:39:28 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

10 million legal - 35 million illegal


6 posted on 11/24/2010 11:49:42 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“10 million legal - 35 million illegal”


Sure feels that way sometimes.

The Census Bureau, CIS, and Pew Research are the best sources.

Total illegal population is estimated between 11 million and 15 million.

Total illegal population in the work force is estimated between 7 million and 10 million.


7 posted on 11/24/2010 11:56:34 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
No "chain immigration" -- that's not quite correct. You should be allowed to bring in parents/children (kids below 18). Otherwise you have the case of aged parents or young kids left behind.

Brothers and sisters, I agree, close that avenue.
8 posted on 11/25/2010 1:40:24 AM PST by Cronos (Matt 24:13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved)
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To: zeestephen; Bhoy; BillT; Cronos; DontTreadOnMe2009
Here's a recent recent report from PEW, a major hispanic advocacy group. Note PEW uses BLS figures.

Foreign Born Gain Jobs; Native Born Lose Jobs

Look at this graph, remembering that a minimum of 125,000 new LEGAL workers (combination of guest workers and green cards) per month = 1.5 million per year.



In addition, per PEW ~8 million illegal aliens currently have jobs.
9 posted on 11/25/2010 5:34:03 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: zeestephen

Thanks

Come to LA

You will start believing my 35,000,000 estimate ...


10 posted on 11/25/2010 7:04:43 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: zeestephen

Thanks

Come to LA

You will start believing my 35,000,000 estimate ...

And PEW and the others got their estimates from the same place that I got mine ...


11 posted on 11/25/2010 7:05:42 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Cronos
“Otherwise you have the case of aged parents or young kids left behind.”

Clearly, if a highly talented immigrant is married or has children the spouse and kids need to come, too.

Parents?

Whole new ballgame.

They are eligible for Medicaid (welfare version of Medicare) and SSI (welfare version of Social Security Retirement and Disability).

And, man, they ALL know it.

Although the new, highly talented citizen signs a written promise to support his parents, that contract is rarely enforced.

And it gets worse.

If the parents apply for and receive citizenship, they can bring ALL their parents, brothers, sisters, grand kids, and if any of those relatives becomes a citizen etc., etc., etc.

12 posted on 11/25/2010 12:26:14 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: algernonpj
“Foreign Born Gain Jobs; Native Born Lose Jobs”

Yes, bad news, and going on for at least a decade.

I've posted the “125,000” per month job number multiple times at FreeRep, NewsBusters, and Michele Malkin.

I've NEVER had one comment on it!

That stuns me.

I spend a lot of my day with the CNBC business channel on in the background.

Their reporters and expert guests consider job growth of 125,000 per month to be good news.

America is barely keeping up with job demand from new legal foreign workers, but CNBC thinks that's good news!

13 posted on 11/25/2010 12:43:02 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009; zeestephen
Come to LA

You will start believing my 35,000,000 estimate ...


Estimates of illegal aliens are running between 30 and 40 million. Many forget that there are two sources of illegal aliens: tromping into the country illegally and visa overstays. It is estimated that 40% of the illegal aliens are visa overstays, many professionals who compete with americans and suppress salaries by working through temp agencies that vouch for them.

Bear Sterns Study

How Many Illegals Are There in the U.S.?

Illegal aliens in the United States
14 posted on 11/25/2010 2:21:35 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: zeestephen
I've posted the “125,000” per month job number multiple times at FreeRep, NewsBusters, and Michele Malkin.

I've NEVER had one comment on it!


Isn't that so discouraging. There are times that I am also amazed at how well hidden the actual numbers of both illegal aliens and new legal workers enter monthly are kept.

The lowest estimates of native population entering the job market I've seen is 100,000 per month. Add the 125,000 new LEGAL workers that are brought into the US each month, that's 225,000 to tread water on employment.

Many who support 'globalism' and 'free trade' agreements blightly ignore tha fact that many of these new workers are ther result of free trade agreements that make no acomodation for the unemployment/employment situation in the US.
15 posted on 11/25/2010 2:37:30 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: zeestephen

I agree it’s a whole new ballgame, but if you are a highly skilled immigrant of 25-40, your parents are at least 50 and if they are 65+ you are going to worry about them back home. If they live in say Angola, then if something happens, it will take you a day to get there (IF you get tickets so quickly).


16 posted on 11/25/2010 10:58:41 PM PST by Cronos (Matt 24:13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved)
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