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For those who think Christie 2012 is a good idea

Posted on 11/20/2010 4:40:15 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

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To: gibsosa; big'ol_freeper

big’ol_freeper,

You really need to read the facts provided in that link.

Christie is not a conservative, he is a moderate and he is not Presidential material.


61 posted on 11/20/2010 5:52:20 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Red in Blue PA
What about Rick Perry of Texas?

IMO, he is the most underrated candidate out there.


Perry is more moderate than he is conservative.

He is more like the flawed conservative GWB, an elitest "compassionate" conservative.
62 posted on 11/20/2010 5:54:25 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: parisa

Yep, when the perfect candidate emerges, he/she will be assumed directly into heaven so they won’t help us much down here either.

All candidates are flawed, I don’t doubt that Christie has his share. I don’t doubt that if he is asked about it, he will give us one of his typically forthcoming answers.


63 posted on 11/20/2010 5:56:38 PM PST by Scanian
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To: SoConPubbie

RE: You really need to read the facts

Appreciate your comment, but when someone tries to tell me what I “really need to” do, the hackles on my neck begin to protrude. I really need to do what my liberty loving arse wants to do.

It will all shake out in the wash.


64 posted on 11/20/2010 5:58:12 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: Scanian
All candidates are flawed

So to you, "flawed" means ignoring the Constitution.....and you are okay with this?

The 2A is absolute.
65 posted on 11/20/2010 5:59:06 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: big'ol_freeper
Appreciate your comment, but when someone tries to tell me what I “really need to” do, the hackles on my neck begin to protrude. I really need to do what my liberty loving arse wants to do.

It will all shake out in the wash.


Then you are choosing to remain willfully ignorant of the facts where Christie is concerned.

Good for you!
66 posted on 11/20/2010 6:00:54 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Red in Blue PA

First of all, do you have a quote off him directly endorsing the position personally?

Secondly, how old is the ad and from what election?

Third, fully automatic weapons are debateable under the 2nd amendments.

Where would you draw line? Shoulder-fired rockets? Tanks? Towed artillery?


67 posted on 11/20/2010 6:03:57 PM PST by Scanian
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To: American Dream 246

“And he supported Castle and another Rino”

then there’s the MIA regarding the Obamcare suit.


68 posted on 11/20/2010 6:07:28 PM PST by ari-freedom (Obama is now the Groper in Chief)
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To: Scanian
First of all, do you have a quote off him directly endorsing the position personally?

I posted a link from a conservative website about his position in the 1990's....take it or leave it. (Read a little back about his comments on Hannity).

fully automatic weapons are debateable under the 2nd amendments

Show me where this clause exists in the 2nd Amendment.
69 posted on 11/20/2010 6:07:52 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: sbMKE
What a crook - he wants to keep machine guns banned ?!?!?

Um, machine guns aren't banned.

Gov. Christie wants to keep even semiautomatic firearms banned! As such, he has clearly bought in to the hysterical propaganda of the Authoritarian Left. Epic fail on the Second Amendment, not to be overlooked.

A clear understanding of the Second Amendment is definitely a litmus test issue for the vast majority of conservatives and libertarians.

Why are northeastern Republicans so idiotically ignorant regarding gun rights? They've been deceived and corrupted... there's simply no excuse for such blindness and pandering.

Alas. Oh well, once Sarah is elected, maybe she'll be able to find a position for him in some Second-Amendment-neutral cabinet post...

70 posted on 11/20/2010 6:08:14 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: DWar

“Conversely Republicans run to the right for primaries and to the middle for the general. The only way Republicans in blue states can win elections is to ‘nuance’ their positions.”

Not McCain. He played hokey pokey all the way through but it worked because everyone else split the vote between themselves.


71 posted on 11/20/2010 6:11:18 PM PST by ari-freedom (Obama is now the Groper in Chief)
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To: SoConPubbie

I am choosing not to be a knee-jerk reactionary to every post any “OMG he is not fully conservative” REMF posts on FR.


72 posted on 11/20/2010 6:12:06 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Actually, the debate took place in Congress and fully automatic weapons are illegal.

The difference between “assault rifles” and “fully automatic weapons” has already been beat to death here.

You did not answer my question. What type of weapons are OK with you? Are RPG’s acceptable?


73 posted on 11/20/2010 6:12:06 PM PST by Scanian
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To: Red in Blue PA

I implore you to refrain from the Texas bug-juice...


74 posted on 11/20/2010 6:13:27 PM PST by waterhill (I have never met an E.T. that I could not shoot)
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To: big'ol_freeper
I am choosing not to be a knee-jerk reactionary to every post any “OMG he is not fully conservative” REMF posts on FR.

No, you are refusing to read anything that might prove your ill-informed opinion of Christie wrong.
75 posted on 11/20/2010 6:14:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: manic4organic
Read the fine print.

It is so small I couldn't ever see it - certainly cannot read it.
76 posted on 11/20/2010 6:18:47 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Who cares? Can’t you just pull the trigger on a semi-automatic really quickly?


77 posted on 11/20/2010 6:22:43 PM PST by coaltrain (Obama's a Harvard lawyer like Elvis was a Black Belt)
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To: Red in Blue PA
“Paid for by the election fund of Chris Christie”

What? That certainly doesn't sound like an official organization, not even capitalized? You're trolling imo.

78 posted on 11/20/2010 6:46:53 PM PST by Jean S
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To: big'ol_freeper

I’d really like to know what election that ad was for.

Elected DA position maybe? If so, I can understand how a candidate would want to appear “tough on crime” by pointing out a couple of gun-toting gangsters.

I believe that organized crime was still a serious problem in NJ in the ‘90’s. Probably still is. Christie seemed unafraid of OC in the ad, as he is still unafraid of union goons.

But the ad is ambiguous. It cites “automatic weapons” on top and “assault rifles” on the bottom. Does that reflect a politician trying to give himself “weasel room?” Or maybe the ad designer had the same confusion re. assault rifles/automatic weapons that we’ve seen on display here.

I have guns and will always have them, come what may. And I think Gov. Christie owes conservatives a reasonable, non-evasive explanation about that ad. He never seems evasive to me.

But the way I feel about him is that his ability to challenge thuggish PSE unions, worthless teachers, idiot reporters, plus cut spending and balance a state budget are real achievements. And I will take an ounce of real achievement over a ton of “correct” conservative policy positions anytime.


79 posted on 11/20/2010 6:51:47 PM PST by Scanian
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To: coaltrain

Many are easily converted (illegally).

I never cared about having one because I’m too stingy with ammo!


80 posted on 11/20/2010 6:53:39 PM PST by Scanian
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