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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What I meant is that:

“(a) health care costs will have to be controlled, which will surely require having Medicare and Medicaid decide what they’re willing to pay for — not really death panels, of course, but consideration of medical effectiveness and, at some point, how much we’re willing to spend for extreme care...”

He’s lying. When you decide how to spend your own health care dollars, that’s one thing. When the government decides how to spend it, that’s a death panel.


11 posted on 11/14/2010 4:20:53 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
" health care costs will have to be controlled, which will surely require having Medicare and Medicaid decide what they’re willing to pay for — not really death panels, of course, but consideration of medical effectiveness and, at some point, how much we’re willing to spend for extreme care...”

That's why Obama's government wants to control "health", they get to decide what it costs and who will live or die. It comes as no surprise to me whatsoever. Pope John Paul II deemed America to be "the culture of death" many years ago. He was no joker, nor was he prone to hyperbole, he was a very serious man who saw the truth and stated it. And it's plain to see he was right.

I remember a completely different America, long ago. Doctors who performed abortions went to jail, women who obtained them were considered low lifes. Men would come to the aid of others in distress, even at their own peril. In most places doors didn't have to be locked at night. At Christmastime mangers were everywhere, even in public places, and people proudly said "Merry Christmas" to each other. America was never Paradise on earth, but it was once very different than it is today. Hearts had not yet grown cold. Children had not yet turned against their parents and grandparents. Life was deeply respected by most people. We opened our doors to the 'world', and the 'world' came in and devoured us.

35 posted on 11/14/2010 4:38:36 PM PST by jiminycricket000
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To: Brilliant
"When you decide how to spend your own health care dollars, that’s one thing. When the government decides how to spend it, that’s a death panel." BRILLIANT, indeed....I'm stealing for my tagline...okay?
44 posted on 11/14/2010 4:57:42 PM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s one thing. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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