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Overcriminalization Hits the Barbershop (Armed raid on barbershops? Welcome to the present USA)
Nationa Review ^ | 11/10/2010 | Josh Barro

Posted on 11/10/2010 6:51:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/10/2010 6:51:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a theory: There is a Florida barbers union that wants its cut.


2 posted on 11/10/2010 6:54:08 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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>> they must agree to submit to inspections on demand by the Department of Business and Professional Regulation ...

That much sounds legit.

>> ...which can then join up with local law enforcement to conduct warrantless searches that cover matters beyond barber licensing issues

That part sounds like an overreaching violation of the Constitution. I wonder how it will hold up in court.


3 posted on 11/10/2010 6:57:14 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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"I zee that you bar-ber withoot a lizense! Unacceptable!!"
4 posted on 11/10/2010 6:59:41 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Millions of your fellow Americans are just itching to become Gestapo based on any whim of the Government. Land of the Free, my ass.


5 posted on 11/10/2010 6:59:59 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“all the establishments raided to date cater to a primarily black or Hispanic clientele”

If you want to catch fish, you’re not going to find them on dry land...


6 posted on 11/10/2010 7:00:59 AM PST by Finop (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Licensing should be required only when the public health or safety is involved. Unsanitary razors perhaps, but even that might be handled by private certification.

The licensing scheme isn’t “union” but “guild” in its nature. Reduce the competition.


7 posted on 11/10/2010 7:01:24 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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We all know what damage would be done if there were a bunch of un-licensed auctioneers running around. THE HORROR! And as for Barbers...
The license issue is all about government control, and favoritism.
The police are using the licensing issue as a front to do raids with out a warrent. This is a clear violation of the constitution.


8 posted on 11/10/2010 7:06:11 AM PST by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jack booted thug alert.


9 posted on 11/10/2010 7:07:35 AM PST by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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I don't see where the sexist pigs raided the women's beauty and nail salons?

I demand equal harrassment!!

10 posted on 11/10/2010 7:09:36 AM PST by TexasCajun
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They were selling drugs.

Thats illegal.

They should have been arrested by cops not bureaucrats.


11 posted on 11/10/2010 7:09:46 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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They should have been arrested by cops not bureaucrats.

They were arrested by cops:

"Orange County (Florida) Sheriff’s Office"

12 posted on 11/10/2010 7:16:30 AM PST by SeeSac
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I do not see any real reason to even license barbers or beauticians. Other than maintaining a sanitary shop, there is no public health reason to have licensing of the practitioners. It seems like a waste of valuable law enforcement resources to enforce licensing laws. However starting today our new statewide smoking ban is in force and local police will be called to arrest criminal smokers for lighting up in any business including their own.
13 posted on 11/10/2010 7:19:17 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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Sounds like the cops are using an easy target for practice. I wonder about the whole gangbanger mentality of police forces. Whatever happened to the “one barbershop, one ranger” type of thinking. All these young, inexperienced kids who become cops want to be SWAT. Every police force, from the lowly Sheriff’s office to the local FBI have assault teams waiting to swarm someone’s house, the wrong house, as often as not. It’s sick.


14 posted on 11/10/2010 7:19:32 AM PST by pallis
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ummm.....most unlicensed barbershops are in areas populated by a certain ethnic minority that in general is the recipient of government benefits and privileges.....gonna be some interesting blowback to this.....


15 posted on 11/10/2010 7:22:11 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeeSac

so drug dealers were arrested. whats the problem?


16 posted on 11/10/2010 7:24:38 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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Morning FRiend,.
I was told I needed a license for my Ma Deuce. What if I don’t get one?
It never harms anyone and I keep it clean. :^)


17 posted on 11/10/2010 7:38:28 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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The story cannot be taken at face value as the issues run much deeper than the author acknowledges.

For one, getting a barber license is a big deal. It’s not simply something walks into a government agency for a quick payment of $20 to get a permit. A barber license, at least the way I understand it in Florida, as akin to getting a general contractor license. Many people claim to be “general contractors” but have not gone through the rigorous process to actually become a legitimate “general contractor”. That’s against the law too.

This is why, again, at least in FL, you see barbershops that are really not barbers that advertise themselves as “barber style” or just “hair stylist”

The past 20 years has seen Orlando get overrun with New Yoricans. The number of fake barber shops has exploded. It truly is quite amazing how many barbershops there are now compared to how few there used to be.

The kicker is barbershops are increasingly used as fronts for money laundering or as processing areas for illegal drug handling. The cops are finding more and more are owned by gang members too.

Perhaps a real barber will see this thread and chime in. I’m really not up to speed on barber law :-)


18 posted on 11/10/2010 8:08:15 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Defund National Peoples Radio!! Democrats are for free speech. Just not for you.)
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Licensing requirements are one of the many ways that liberals screw over minorities. Conservatives should point that out regularly.


19 posted on 11/10/2010 8:09:38 AM PST by Our man in washington
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Amazing timing on this story. I was in a barbershop yesterday in San Diego where the state came in for an inspection. It was the first inspection in 9 years, according to the barber. The state thug was a foreigner, spoke English with an accent, and she was very demanding. A couple of times, she demanded to speak to the barbers even though they were in the middle of giving haircuts. I had to sit there and wait until they were done talking.

After it was over, the inspector pulled the license, told them that I was the last haircut they could do, and left the shop. Reason: the shop's lease was held by a guy who died 5 years ago, and they had never transferred the name to the current lease holder. Instead of telling them to fix the paperwork, they put 5 barbers out of work for I don't know how many weeks.

California is circling the drain.

20 posted on 11/10/2010 8:53:13 AM PST by Defiant (I'm a Fabian Constitutionalist. Roll back FDR and progressivism!)
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