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Obama on Homosexuality:
‘I Don’t Think It’s a Choice’.
Wall Street Journal ^
| 10/14/10
| Jonathan Weisman
Posted on 10/14/2010 5:38:04 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: GeronL
A person can be born with a tendency for kleptomania and still resist the urge to steal.
Or they can toss out all inhibition and go for it.
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:50:08 PM PDT
by
skeeter
To: Nachum; All
"Trying to tell us something Barak?"
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:50:29 PM PDT
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: Nachum
People are born with a certain makeup. Perhaps some people are born with a predispostion for this behavior, in the same way some people are born with a predispostion to develop a seizure disorder, or to develop schizophrenia, or to develop bipolar disorder. That doesn't mean that the behavior is normal behavior. If that's the position that these liberal morons want to take, then why are they not clamoring for ending the treatments for people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorders (or other disorders identified in the DSM)? After all, those people cannot help themselves either.
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:50:53 PM PDT
by
SoldierDad
(Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
To: skeeter
One chooses to get F*&^ed up the a$$ or to suck that mans D*&^. There is a moment of truth where one has to decide.
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:52:27 PM PDT
by
Ouderkirk
(Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
To: Nachum
Here is a list of what many doctors refer to as Lavender diseases. They occur with extraordinary frequency among male homosexuals.
Anal Cancer
Chlamydia trachomatis
Cryptosporidium
Giardia lamblia
Herpes simplex virus
Human immunodeficiency virus
Human papilloma virus
Isospora belli
Microsporidia
Gonorrhea
Viral hepatitis types B & C
Syphilis
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:52:59 PM PDT
by
skimask
To: Nachum
Nobody chooses to be a quadriplegic, but they’re not suited for the military. A Plato Obama is not.
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:53:34 PM PDT
by
Mr Ramsbotham
(Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
To: skeeter
That’s true. I was born with a tendency to become a genius and I successfully became stupid. :P
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:53:42 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
To: Nachum
Liberals are Pros at Projections.
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:56:48 PM PDT
by
GraceG
To: Ouderkirk
Obviously. But there has to be an urge that leads to the act.
Normal, mentally well adjusted people don't have to worry about facing a 'moment of truth'.
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:57:32 PM PDT
by
skeeter
To: Nachum
People are born with a certain makeup. We are all children of God. We dont make determinations about who we love.So then we no longer need to teach homosex to 6 year-olds and can fire the Safe Schools Czar, right?
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posted on
10/14/2010 5:59:27 PM PDT
by
ProfoundMan
(Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
To: Nachum
Boys are boys and girls are girls. Partners are ALWAYS a choice....Obama is an idiot.
Man and man or woman and woman does not a marriage make. Nothing perverse about those gay parades?? Good grief...
To: tatown
So Barack couldnt help himself when it came to Larry Sinclair?
_____________________________________________________
No, Barack couldn’t help himself when it came to Frank Marshall Davis.
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:00:03 PM PDT
by
Responsibility2nd
(Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
To: Nachum
"We are all children of God. We dont make determinations about who we love. Does that include pedophiles and zoophiles, Mr. President?
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:00:40 PM PDT
by
Ol' Sparky
(Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
To: GeronL
I have a tendency towards heterosexuality that my wife successfully resists.
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:00:49 PM PDT
by
skeeter
To: skeeter; Nachum
The issue, succinctly stated, is simply that the existence, or lack thereof, of a gay or homosexual gene (or any other inborn proclivity) as it may, or may not, influence sexual orientation is completely immaterial to any discussion concerning homosexual behavior.
Homosexuality is defined by behavior, i.e., unless one engages in sexual activity with a member of the same sex, he, or she, is not a homosexual. (The term sexual orientation is a description of feelings.) Feelings do not control the behavior of a mentally healthy adult human being.
Any human behavior (not driven by autonomic or instinctual responses) that is not voluntary is, by definition, a psychosis.
Therefore, homosexual behavior is either a voluntary choice or a psychosis.
If homosexual behavior is a voluntary choice, then it is subject to the same types of societal regulations, i.e., laws, social stigma, etc., as is any other sexual behavior such as pedophilia, prostitution, polygamy, etc. Furthermore, if homosexual behavior is voluntary, it has no more claim to special rights or considerations than does pedophilia, prostitution, polygamy, etc., i.e., none.
If homosexual behavior is a psychosis, then it is validly subject to treatment and possible cure, just as are nymphomania, drug addiction, etc.
As an added consideration, there is the argument of Darwinian selection: survival of the fittest. Homosexual individuals are incapable of reproduction if they are exclusively homosexual. (If these individuals do not practice exclusively homosexual activity, then, by definition, they can choose not to be homosexual
and the issue is, again, defined as a behavioral choice.)
By the principles of genetics, exclusively homosexual practitioners would cause such types of individuals to appear in the population at no greater rate than that of other genetic disorders which prevent their victims from procreating, not the currently observed proportion of the population, e.g., HutchinsonGilford progeria syndrome.
Given that the observed homosexual practitioner proportion of the population is around 2% or 3% rather than a small fraction of 1%, homosexuality does not fit the criteria for a genetic source.
Once again, U.S. health regulations currently prohibit men who have sex with men (homosexual practitioners aka "gays") from donating blood. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration studies categorically confirm that if homosexual practitioners were permitted to give blood, the general population would be placed at risk.
According to the FDA: "[ homosexual practitioner or 'gay' men] have an HIV prevalence 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first-time blood donors and 8,000 times higher than repeat blood donors."
The FDA further warns: "[ homosexual practitioner or 'gay' men] also have an increased risk of having other infections that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion. For example, infection with the Hepatitis B virus is about 5-6 times more common, and Hepatitis C virus infections are about 2 times more common in "homosexual practitioners than in the general population."
A 2007 CDC study found that, although "gay" men comprise only 1-to-2 percent of the population, they account for an epidemic 64 percent of all syphilis cases.
To: skeeter
Some boy in Dallas wanted to be homecoming queen and didn’t get nominated and will now hold protests and demonstrations.
The local media calls him a “her” and are basically cheerleading.
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:05:38 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
To: Nachum
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:06:21 PM PDT
by
grumpa
(VP)
To: Nachum
Zer0 is capable of standing watch?
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:06:40 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: luvbach1
Lots of things that are not “chosen” are incompatible with military service. Duh.
What if it were proven that heroin addiction was not chosen, but was genetic? Would that be okay for the military?
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:08:52 PM PDT
by
fightinJAG
(Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
To: Nachum
What does Obamalamadingdong think of homosexuals who have healed themselves accepting religion and now speak out against their former lifestyles?
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posted on
10/14/2010 6:10:31 PM PDT
by
Vision
("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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