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Obama on Homosexuality: ‘I Don’t Think It’s a Choice’.
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/14/10 | Jonathan Weisman

Posted on 10/14/2010 5:38:04 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: GeronL
A person can be born with a tendency for kleptomania and still resist the urge to steal.

Or they can toss out all inhibition and go for it.

21 posted on 10/14/2010 5:50:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Nachum; All
"Trying to tell us something Barak?"


22 posted on 10/14/2010 5:50:29 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum
“People are born with a certain makeup.

Perhaps some people are born with a predispostion for this behavior, in the same way some people are born with a predispostion to develop a seizure disorder, or to develop schizophrenia, or to develop bipolar disorder. That doesn't mean that the behavior is normal behavior. If that's the position that these liberal morons want to take, then why are they not clamoring for ending the treatments for people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorders (or other disorders identified in the DSM)? After all, those people cannot help themselves either.

23 posted on 10/14/2010 5:50:53 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: skeeter

One chooses to get F*&^ed up the a$$ or to suck that mans D*&^. There is a moment of truth where one has to decide.


24 posted on 10/14/2010 5:52:27 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Nachum

Here is a list of what many doctors refer to as “Lavender” diseases. They occur with extraordinary frequency among male homosexuals.

Anal Cancer
Chlamydia trachomatis
Cryptosporidium
Giardia lamblia
Herpes simplex virus
Human immunodeficiency virus
Human papilloma virus
Isospora belli
Microsporidia
Gonorrhea
Viral hepatitis types B & C
Syphilis


25 posted on 10/14/2010 5:52:59 PM PDT by skimask
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To: Nachum

Nobody chooses to be a quadriplegic, but they’re not suited for the military. A Plato Obama is not.


26 posted on 10/14/2010 5:53:34 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: skeeter

That’s true. I was born with a tendency to become a genius and I successfully became stupid. :P


27 posted on 10/14/2010 5:53:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Nachum

Liberals are Pros at Projections.


28 posted on 10/14/2010 5:56:48 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Ouderkirk
Obviously. But there has to be an urge that leads to the act.

Normal, mentally well adjusted people don't have to worry about facing a 'moment of truth'.

29 posted on 10/14/2010 5:57:32 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Nachum
“People are born with a certain makeup. We are all children of God. We don’t make determinations about who we love.”

So then we no longer need to teach homosex to 6 year-olds and can fire the Safe Schools Czar, right?


30 posted on 10/14/2010 5:59:27 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: Nachum
Boys are boys and girls are girls. Partners are ALWAYS a choice....Obama is an idiot.

Man and man or woman and woman does not a marriage make. Nothing perverse about those gay parades?? Good grief...

31 posted on 10/14/2010 5:59:36 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: tatown

So Barack couldn’t help himself when it came to Larry Sinclair?

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No, Barack couldn’t help himself when it came to Frank Marshall Davis.


32 posted on 10/14/2010 6:00:03 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Nachum
"We are all children of God. We don’t make determinations about who we love.”

Does that include pedophiles and zoophiles, Mr. President?

33 posted on 10/14/2010 6:00:40 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: GeronL

I have a tendency towards heterosexuality that my wife successfully resists.


34 posted on 10/14/2010 6:00:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter; Nachum
The issue, succinctly stated, is simply that the existence, or lack thereof, of a “gay” or “homosexual” gene (or any other inborn proclivity) as it may, or may not, influence sexual orientation is completely immaterial to any discussion concerning homosexual behavior.

Homosexuality is defined by behavior, i.e., unless one engages in sexual activity with a member of the same sex, he, or she, is not a homosexual. (The term sexual orientation is a description of feelings.) Feelings do not control the behavior of a mentally healthy adult human being.

Any human behavior (not driven by autonomic or instinctual responses) that is not voluntary is, by definition, a psychosis.

Therefore, homosexual behavior is either a voluntary choice or a psychosis.

If homosexual behavior is a voluntary choice, then it is subject to the same types of societal regulations, i.e., laws, social stigma, etc., as is any other sexual behavior such as pedophilia, prostitution, polygamy, etc. Furthermore, if homosexual behavior is voluntary, it has no more claim to special rights or considerations than does pedophilia, prostitution, polygamy, etc., i.e., none.

If homosexual behavior is a psychosis, then it is validly subject to treatment and possible cure, just as are nymphomania, drug addiction, etc.

As an added consideration, there is the argument of Darwinian selection: survival of the fittest. Homosexual individuals are incapable of reproduction if they are exclusively homosexual. (If these individuals do not practice exclusively homosexual activity, then, by definition, they can choose not to be homosexual… and the issue is, again, defined as a behavioral choice.)

By the principles of genetics, exclusively homosexual practitioners would cause such types of individuals to appear in the population at no greater rate than that of other genetic disorders which prevent their victims from procreating, not the currently observed proportion of the population, e.g., Hutchinson–Gilford progeria syndrome.

Given that the observed homosexual practitioner proportion of the population is around 2% or 3% rather than a small fraction of 1%, homosexuality does not fit the criteria for a genetic source.

Once again, U.S. health regulations currently prohibit men who have sex with men (homosexual practitioners – aka "gays") from donating blood. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration studies categorically confirm that if homosexual practitioners were permitted to give blood, the general population would be placed at risk.

According to the FDA: "[ homosexual practitioner or 'gay' men] have an HIV prevalence 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first-time blood donors and 8,000 times higher than repeat blood donors."

The FDA further warns: "[ homosexual practitioner or 'gay' men] also have an increased risk of having other infections that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion. For example, infection with the Hepatitis B virus is about 5-6 times more common, and Hepatitis C virus infections are about 2 times more common in "homosexual practitioners than in the general population."

A 2007 CDC study found that, although "gay" men comprise only 1-to-2 percent of the population, they account for an epidemic 64 percent of all syphilis cases.
35 posted on 10/14/2010 6:03:00 PM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: skeeter

Some boy in Dallas wanted to be homecoming queen and didn’t get nominated and will now hold protests and demonstrations.

The local media calls him a “her” and are basically cheerleading.


36 posted on 10/14/2010 6:05:38 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Nachum

The facts as best modern science has them today:

http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights


37 posted on 10/14/2010 6:06:21 PM PDT by grumpa (VP)
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To: Nachum

Zer0 is capable of standing watch?


38 posted on 10/14/2010 6:06:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: luvbach1

Lots of things that are not “chosen” are incompatible with military service. Duh.

What if it were proven that heroin addiction was not chosen, but was genetic? Would that be okay for the military?


39 posted on 10/14/2010 6:08:52 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: Nachum
What does Obamalamadingdong think of homosexuals who have healed themselves accepting religion and now speak out against their former lifestyles?
40 posted on 10/14/2010 6:10:31 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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