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Report: 10 states sell half of imported crime guns(Barf Alert)
miamiherald.com ^ | 26 September, 2010 | AP

Posted on 09/27/2010 4:58:37 AM PDT by marktwain

WASHINGTON -- Nearly half of the guns that crossed state lines and were used in crimes in 2009 were sold in just 10 states, according to a report being released Monday by a mayors' group.

Those states accounted for nearly 21,000 guns connected to crimes in other states, said the survey by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, an association of more than 500 mayors led by New York's Michael Bloomberg and Boston's Thomas Menino.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives traced more than 145,000 guns used in crimes in 2009 and found that more than 43,000 of those weapons were sold in other states.

Forty-nine percent of those guns were sold in Georgia, Florida, Virginia, Texas, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, California or Arizona.

States were also ranked by the number of crime guns exported per 100,000 inhabitants. Mississippi led that list, followed by West Virginia, Kentucky, Alaska, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, Nevada and Georgia.

Those states, the report said, have more relaxed gun laws, suggesting that "criminals and gun traffickers may favor certain states as the sources of guns."

For example, in states that do not require background checks for handgun sales at gun shows, the crime-gun export rate was two-and-a-half times as much as the rate in states that do require such checks.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloombergsm0sque; bloomie4mosque4bucks; gun; mask0fbloomberg; mayors; mosque0fbloomberg; propaganda
Meaningless statistics woven into a story to demonize guns. I bet if you took the top 10 states with numbers of murders, they would be over half. So what?
1 posted on 09/27/2010 4:58:42 AM PDT by marktwain
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Top ten states are over half the population. And the notion that California is a state with lax gun laws, full of redneck Republicans is risible. Who is missing from the list? Vermont and Alaska, which have few (unconstitutional!!) gun laws.


2 posted on 09/27/2010 5:01:40 AM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: marktwain

Top ten states are over half the population. And the notion that California is a state with lax gun laws, full of redneck Republicans is risible. Who is missing from the list? Vermont and Alaska, which have few (unconstitutional!!) gun laws.


3 posted on 09/27/2010 5:01:50 AM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: marktwain
Forty-nine percent of those guns were sold in Georgia, Florida, Virginia, Texas, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, California or Arizona.

California??!?

Impossible.

4 posted on 09/27/2010 5:02:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The battle lines are drawn: On one side, are Dems and Repubs. On the other, the Tea Party (us).)
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The ten most progressive states cause most all of America’s problems. If those 10 were purged from the union, the others would immediately benefit and the quality of life would improve


5 posted on 09/27/2010 5:06:58 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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I live in Virginia and take exception to this report as I am “victimized” every time I try to buy a gun. Because I have a common name, it generally takes me two days to buy a gun due to our slow state background check (generally 3 plus hours). That aside, this would mean a lot more if they identified how the guns were obtained rather than the point of original sale. I reside in a suburb of Washington, DC, which I suspect was a major contributor of crime statistics to this report. Since Virginians are permitted to own guns, our homes are frequently selected for break-ins from other high crime areas. So by the logic of this piece, a gun legally obtained in Virginia but illegally transported to a crime scene is the fault of those acting within the system. BS! For those professing it’s the gun show loophole I say “no way”. Our gun shows have enough undercover agents trying to enact an illegal sale that everyone is careful.


6 posted on 09/27/2010 5:36:34 AM PDT by Boomer One
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Democrat party controlled states?.....heh heh heh.


7 posted on 09/27/2010 5:38:38 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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For example, in states that do not require background checks for handgun sales at gun shows, the crime-gun export rate was two-and-a-half times as much as the rate in states that do require such checks.

Dealers with FFL's have to perform background checks, regardless of the state or the circumstances of the sale. Private sales at gun shows can't possibly account for the volume of guns purportedly used in these crimes.

8 posted on 09/27/2010 5:45:15 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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What's the percentage of melanin in the fingers that pull the triggers?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

9 posted on 09/27/2010 6:37:23 AM PDT by The Comedian
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Georgia 10 8186453
Florida 4 15982378
Virginia 12 7078515
Texas 2 20851820
Indiana 14 6080485
Ohio 7 11353140
Pennsylvania 6 12281054
North Carolina 11 8049313
California 1 33871648
Arizona 20 5130632


All 10 of the states are in the top 20. Some of the smaller ones (Indiana) are affected by being near states with so many restrictions on gun sales, that selection of prices are poor at the few stores around. If you live in a suburb just south of Chicago, Indiana will be the location of the nearest decent gun store.

To me, the only strange anomaly is that not only NY, but NJ and CT are not on the list. PA's placing is the same as their pop. rank, so they are not selling an inordinate amount. Therefore, NY and NJ must not have much gun crime...right?
10 posted on 09/27/2010 6:37:38 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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The BATFE would be all over any gun dealers who sold guns illegally.

Interesting that the BATFE isn't all over somebody.

Must mean the guns were sold legally.

11 posted on 09/27/2010 7:23:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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For example, in states that do not require background checks for handgun sales at gun shows, the crime-gun export rate was two-and-a-half times as much as the rate in states that do require such checks.

This is an extremely devious statement, on many levels, which is intended to mislead readers. For example, the intent of the statement is to give the reader the impression that handgun sales at gun shows were largely responsible for the "crime guns" (which has not been established at all). Also, note the sleight of hand whereby the statistics that are given refer to "firearms" (which includes handguns and long guns), but that quote refers only to laws about sales of handguns. Very deceptive, indeed - but what else would you expect from a group of nanny-staters...

12 posted on 09/27/2010 7:40:19 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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Bad headline. The states are not selling the guns.


13 posted on 09/27/2010 8:06:45 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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Sooooo over 50 percent of the population exports 49 percent of the guns. Big deal


14 posted on 09/27/2010 8:45:03 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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“The ten most progressive states cause most all of America’s problems. If those 10 were purged from the union, the others would immediately benefit and the quality of life would improve”

It’s quite a stretch to call Indiana “progressive”.


15 posted on 09/28/2010 2:55:36 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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