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To: gundog
if the French came hat in hand saying they wanted the Louisiana Purchase back, I think he’d give it to ‘em.

Indeed he would. And the southern portion of Arizona was PURCHASED from the Governor of Mexico at the time. It was called the Gadsden Purchase. So the whole "you stole it concept" is pretty much BS. ANd I can't remember the name of the US general who was sent to quell the Apache uprisings in that area who said something like, "We should go to war with Mexico to make them take it back."

Mexico didn't want Arizona at the time and were glad to be rid of it.

134 posted on 09/21/2010 1:48:10 PM PDT by ponygirl (TEA people: First we take out the RINOS. Then we finish off the Socialists.)
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To: ponygirl

Winfield Scott?


138 posted on 09/21/2010 1:54:43 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: ponygirl

Obama’s ignorance of history is only exceeded by his narciscism and intellectual hubris that got us into this mess. Simply put, he seems to know nothing but the Marxist dogma he inhaled with whatever else he snorted as a “child”. But thank you (as a former Arizonan whose ancestors helped settle the new state when everyone was on a first name basis with the Goldwaters and made it into the formerly prosperous state it was) for correcting the historical record.

Thanks also to Verginius Rufus (Poster #139) for correcting the historical record. As an amateur student of pre-Columbian history and early Mexico, and a frequent visitor to study that’s country’s ancient civilizations before the drug wars, I am baffled about all the talk about Mexico taking huge sections of the United States back.

I think it is safe to say that without the success of the American Revolution there would be no independent Mexico, not to mention the moral and material support that Benito Juarez (the first President of Mexico of Indian, PC: Native American, ancestry) received from the United States to kick out the French. Without that, the siginificance of Cinco de Mayo, the heroic victory of the vastly outnumbered Mexican militia over the French at Puebla, would have been diminished.

It can be argued that US influence twice at least helped Mexico to guarantee its independence. Aside from the sometimes questionable correspondence between Lincoln and Juarez, there is the misplacement of 30,000 rifles by General Sheridan which were “recovered” by Juarez’ forces to guarantee Mexican independence from the French. Andrew Johnson also invoked the Monroe Doctrine to give Mexican nationalists a boost in reclaiming their country.

Obama’s ignorance of history is astonishing for someone who “graduated” from Columbia and Harvard Law. Then again, maybe not.


186 posted on 09/21/2010 2:58:09 PM PDT by RightSpirit ((GO CHRISTINE O'DONNELL 2010!))
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