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To: Tennessee Nana
Yes its been the case...and No its not legal...

Of course it is legal. Words have meanings. We recognize birthright citizenship in this country. The law as passed by Congress specifically authorizes it. I have been involved in the passport inssuance process. If a person has a valid birth certificate showing that he/she was born on US soil, that person is deemed a US citizen except in some rare circumstances having to do with accredited diplomats and some others.

Until the law is changed by Congress, birthright citizenship still is the law of the land. Stop trying to make the ridiculous argument that it is "not legal." Read the law damn it.

8 U.S.C. § 1401 : US Code - Section 1401: Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

19 posted on 09/13/2010 5:25:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
What's at issue is the willful misinterpretation of the first sentence.

In issuing passports to anyone with a birth certificate you participated in this process of willful misinterpretation. This has been the de facto position for a few decades now, and I'm sure that if you indeed worked for the State Department then you had instructions to do so. If you did.

But agency regulations and legal reality don't always meet, do they? Because the agency writes what it wants until somebody challenges it.

The citizens of foreign nations do not have the right to break into our country and then decide who the citizenry of the next generation will be.

Such a thing violates the concept of consent of the governed. We do not wish to be governed by the nationals of a foreign nation, and that is what the children of illegal aliens are. Don't believe me? Ask the government of Mexico, for example. They do in fact claim that such children are their nationals as well.

I agree. But I don't agree that they are "our" nationals as well.

No one in their right mind would.

Since you're so knowledgeable on this subject, you must also know that clarifying statutes have been introduced into the Congress since the early 1990's which defines "and subject to the jurisdiction". They have not gone anywhere because of Democrat (mainly) opposition.

They want the aliens to be able to vote for them, since they have lost the support of the Americans.

Eventually such a statute will pass. This is what the Congressional chattering class understands now.

So the debate will be over.

But just because you use swear words, epithets, and table pounding to try to convince the rest of us that some kid whose mother crawled under the fence from Tijuana to get to the hospital in San Diego is an "American" doesn't make it true.

23 posted on 09/14/2010 1:10:35 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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