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Sheriffs want lists of patients using painkillers
NewObserver.com ^ | 9-8-2010

Posted on 09/09/2010 9:00:59 AM PDT by Scythian

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To: Scythian

Yeah, lets start raiding the homes of cancer patients and other people with chronic and acute pain. Great idea.

If two aspirin are good enough for the Sheriff, they’re good enough for some 80 year old with liver cancer.


21 posted on 09/09/2010 9:10:19 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Scythian
Sheriffs meet HIPPA. I would sue your a$$es off.
22 posted on 09/09/2010 9:10:25 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Scythian

Here’s the rule on law-enforcement access to your medical records. You might be surprised. Don’t let the word “Privacy” in “HIPAA Privacy Act” bamboozle you.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/faq/disclosures_for_law_enforcement_purposes/349.html


23 posted on 09/09/2010 9:10:33 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Scythian

That’s amazingly assine of the cops.


24 posted on 09/09/2010 9:11:03 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Scythian
As it stands now, doctors and pharmacists are the main users.

Who are the other users?

25 posted on 09/09/2010 9:11:36 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Scythian
While I'll give the sheriff the benefit of the doubt that he is doing this with good intentions, this is a really bad idea. Warrantless stops and frisks would aid in crime prevention too—more so than this. So would permitting the sheriff to enter the house of someone they reasonably believe is a criminal without a warrant. Heck, let's just move to the Soviet or Nazi system where they can detain you without cause. That would really cut down on crime.

And what is the next step? The sheriff sees that someone is using a lot of pain killers. Does he then get their personal medical history to see if they have some disabling disease?

Its things like this that have turned a lot of conservatives from pro-law enforcement to a more hesitant stance.

26 posted on 09/09/2010 9:11:47 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Scythian

Drug test them!


27 posted on 09/09/2010 9:11:58 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: MindBender26

“Relax, read between the lines.

LEOs realize they will never get such records, but are using thisas a scare tactic for the dopers.”

Yep and seat belt laws will never be a primary offense. Smoking will never be banned on private property. Hey, if you have nothing to hide, there is no reason to be worried about encroaching government.


28 posted on 09/09/2010 9:12:20 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Scythian

I cant believe that LEO anywhere in America would think that this is even remotely acceptable.
Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia MAYBE, but here?


29 posted on 09/09/2010 9:12:31 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: CSM

Under Obamacare, they won’t even have to ask ...


30 posted on 09/09/2010 9:13:02 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: Scythian

This is easy. Just give him a list of all our Democratic politicians. Or just do a drug test.


31 posted on 09/09/2010 9:14:00 AM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: Scythian

As long as they promise that no one else will have access to the information, I guess it’ll be OK. I mean, what could go wrong?


32 posted on 09/09/2010 9:14:02 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: DoughtyOne
“We’ll never use your medical records for anything other than your medical care. Honest!”

And they'll never take your car or cash without a conviction either, will they?

33 posted on 09/09/2010 9:16:05 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Imagine if they asked for a list of those with Aides ... (the firestorm)


34 posted on 09/09/2010 9:18:01 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

HIPAA does allow for access to medical records by law enforcement, but it’s on a per-patient basis with restrictions and safeguards. What are they going to do, submit a list of everyone in the state?


35 posted on 09/09/2010 9:18:31 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Scythian

Let me tell you how else this will work out. They will create a database of all “known drug users” from the Rx data. It will be made available by computer link. Most cops now have laptop computers in their cars. In Indiana, if they run your license plate in the computer, it will automatically link to the driver license status of the registered owner. If the registered owner comes back with a suspended license, the cops make a stop and go from there (certain restrictions apply, but this is generally the case).

Now the same link will go one further; run the plate #, link to registered owner, then link to “drug user” database. Cop then creates flimsy excuse to stop car (”weaving within it’s lane”). One thing leads to another and you have a DUI arrest.


36 posted on 09/09/2010 9:22:23 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Melas
Unless I’m in his or her jail, no sheriff has any business knowing what medications my physician has prescribed for me.

And in that situation, he'll go out of his way to ignore your desperate pleas for insulin or antibiotics or heart medicine or whatever it takes to keep somebody sane and functioning for another day. The list of lawsuits from people at death's door due to police/prison refusal to give them the medicine they came in with is a long one.

37 posted on 09/09/2010 9:24:34 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Scythian

Sheriff of Mayberry vs. HIPAA?


38 posted on 09/09/2010 9:25:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bill1952
Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia MAYBE, but here?

There's a Yakov Smirnoff joke in there somewhere.

39 posted on 09/09/2010 9:26:40 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CSM
The Feds already are tracking what kind of drugs your using especially if your using nasal decongestant anti-allergy medications.

Every time you buy it your required to show a drivers license and then sign an electronically recorded signature available to the D.E.A.

This is supposed to stop diversions of these drugs to methamphetamine cookers.

40 posted on 09/09/2010 9:28:13 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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