Posted on 09/07/2010 10:18:46 AM PDT by Rebelbase
>>Follow? <<
I’m following that you keep stating that so many people on this thread are saying that a woman should never breastfeed in public. I’m seeing a couple but not that many.
YOU keep bringing up how women have been told that it is immodest even when they cover. So what? This article is about a woman who refuses to cover and wants things her way.
If a woman covers herself and feeds her baby, then someone feels the need to tell her not to do it, ignore that person. If it becomes uncomfortable, pump. LOTS of mothers do.
Geez, it’s not that hard.
But all the “I have a right to feed my baby without cover” women, make some people uncomfortable. When you argue like this on a thread about a woman who is that kind, you look as if you are one too. If we stop disregarding others and compromise, it works out better.
As I’ve pointed out a number of times, the vindictivness of your side on this issue should be a concern to all.
Of course everything that has happened here is constitutional.
My point is that the vicious tearing down of those mores that we lived by for so long has a serious, and detrimental, effect on our culture.
I wish Beck well, his approach will have a greater, positive effect on these damaging types of behaviors that anything else.
~That~ would be some freaky goat cheese.
Throughout history breastfeeding in public was no big deal. It was NORMAL. Still is in most of the world and was in the USA as recently as the 1930’s. It wasn’t classless, immoral, irreligous and all the other negative things people have tried to make it out to be here on this thread.
We live in a hyper-sexualized culture where the only breasts that are allowed to be seen are sexualized breasts. Period. Motherhood is denigrated from all quarters, women are sexually objectified and are encouraged and rewarded for allowing themselves to be sexually objectified. This is accepted as normal now, but it is anything but.
Anything to do with the natural function of the breast has been bastardized into something it never was throughout all human history where breast were exhalted as symbols of motherhood and maternal fealty.
It seems to me that women who are presenting their breasts as purely sexualized body parts, to titilate and inspire lust, are the ones being immodest .. yet these women are encouraged and praised throughout our culture right down to this website.
Some of the wrightings of John Paul II on nudity:
Nakedness as such is not to be equated with physical shamelessness ... Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person ... The human body is not in itself shameful
It's a nice image no matter how you slice it. Some of the attitudes expressed here are remarkable. The level of buttinskiism and melodramatic outrage over the most trivial of things is a sight to behold. Any man bothered by a glimpse of a lactating breast has an unresolved mommy issue, or some such thing.
Unless you somehow become king of the world, what else do you plan to do? It's an unattractive character trait to even notice a kid being fed, let alone to work up drama queen type outrage over it.
>>Throughout history breastfeeding in public was no big deal.<<
You keep saying it. You believe it. You have no proof of it.
Americans did not breastfeed in public. Especially not in recent history, like the last 100 years.
If you like other cultures that’s cool, go there.
Ameicans like America just the away it is.
Even your quote from JPII is not from a the man as a Pope, but rather from a book written before about Love and Responsibility. It’s not papal dogma AND it’s concerning two married people. So yes, getting naked is a good thing with your spouse but has nothing to do with breastfeeding in public.
>>Any man bothered by a glimpse of a lactating breast has an unresolved mommy issue, or some such thing. <<
BS. Women who sit uncovered while feeding are exhibitionists or trying to prove a point.
La Leche league women are so self centered it’s pitiful.
For those men who have grown up in the past hundred years, it can be embarrassing and YOU may not have a problem but many Grandpas do.
I take my grandfather’s word as proof. It was common and it was no big deal
Do you have any proof that Americans never breasted in public throughout it’s history?
JPII words did not concern just married couples ... he is speaking about the universal human condition. He did not condemn nudity, only attributing negativity to the nude or partially nude individual that diminshed him/her as a person.
You are the one who keeps trying to paint a publically breastfeedin mothers as immoral (as well as other accusations you have made against their characters, collectively I might add, which is very anti-individual).
You did not adress any of my points about the rewarding and exhalting of sexualization of breasts (and women in general) in our culture ... is that because you approve of such?
ROFLMTO!!
Your entire lyric is brilliant! Sums it up!
>>I take my grandfather’s word as proof. It was common and it was no big deal<<
My father, FIL and Grandmother-in law said different.
You stated it, where is your proof?
>>You are the one who keeps trying to paint a publically breastfeedin mothers as immoral (as well as other accusations you have made against their characters, collectively I might add, which is very anti-individual).<<
Where? You mean where I said that women who do not cover during feeding are either exhibitionists or proving a point.
If they weren’t doing either, they would have no problem with a cover.
You give no reference for any of your points. Until you do, they are anecdotal. Your family may have publicly breastfed, but most of America was aghast at an ankle being show, let alone a breast.
And did you notice that JPII wasn’t American? We are talking about America.
In my book, that says more about them than it does about you.
Thank you for being mannerly and discreet!
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