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To: stranger and pilgrim
Your example of the skeet gun is perfectly acceptable currently and in no way would it make you a "dealer". Now in the ATF's eyes if that example plays itself out 50 times over in 3 years, you are probably running a business.

You could go on doing this example forever as long as no problems occurred with any of the firearms you originally filled out a 4473 for in your name. Once one of those skeet guns turns up in a Mexican gun fight and they run a trace back to the dealer you bought it from your trouble starts.

The whole thing is really a bunch of BS and IMHO is designed to be able to make anyone into a "process" criminal if the Feds don't like what you are up to, even if you are following the law.

16 posted on 08/25/2010 9:18:50 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA

Just to be clear, I have no doubt this guy was acting like a dealer, buying and selling guns as a hobby business. The problem is that the BATF considers those two things incompatable — hobby and business. It didn’t used to be that way. Until just a few years ago, a person who wanted to take his collecting to the next level could apply for and receive a dealers FFL. With license in hand, there’s no temptation to skirt the line. There’s no need to mark “yes” that you’re buying it for yourself when you know it’s really a case of “hey, this is a good deal, I can make a few bucks on this.”

I see no evidence in this story that this guy was doing anything nefarious. They don’t claim he was supplying guns to known criminals, for example.

Yes, he may have sold guns to individuals without requiring a background check, but that’s what the law allows. No, that’s what the law specifies of non-licensed people. Had they just allowed him to have a license, none of this would have even mattered. He wouldn’t have had to falsify that one question on the form and he would have been running background checks on every sale. There, problem solved.

Of course, I’m just assuming he would have preferred to have a license, but I can’t imagine why he wouldn’t want one, given his level of activity.


17 posted on 08/26/2010 4:27:10 AM PDT by stranger and pilgrim
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