Posted on 08/23/2010 3:46:19 AM PDT by Man50D
The problem is that the current state of political play makes it virtually impossible to mount a successful third-party challenge. There may come a time in the future when this ceases to be the reality, but for now, we have a two-party system that is badly broken, with little light at the end of that discouraging tunnel.
For the conservative/centrist (or centrist/conservative) majority of the voters in America to find meaningful, effective expression in our deeply desired need for change in the overall direction of the country, we need for Congress to make one small change in the way that our elected representatives do business.
When a candidate makes promises about the things he/she will do once elected, and when our believing those those promises propels that candidate into office, that candidate must be held accountable to do those things promised. If they fail to fulfill on those promises, they should be removed from office immediately.
One way to accomplish this is to instuitute a "two-winner" system. One is the guy who gets elected and goes to do the job. The other is his/her primary runner-up, who sits like an understudy in the wings; goes back to their regular job after the election, like a "National Guard Reservist," but who is ready to be called up if needed.
When the newly-elected official does what he/she said they would, they serve their full term. The first time they turn on their constituents, they get "the hook," and the "understudy" is sent in from the sidelines to take the ball. It is only the threat of immediate replacement that will keep these Beltway-challenged amoebae from shape-shifting once the polls are closed.
Scott Brown joining Snowe and Collins in stabbing conservatives in the back, jumping ship and backing the O'Bunga "Financial Reform" is a perfect example. Had Brown held his ground, that abortion never would have gone to a vote. Scott Brown raped his constituents right up the backside, and there should be an immediate consequence when these scum pull this crap.
Now, I know that the liklihood of such "Immediate Substitution" legislation getting passed is about as realistic as is the chance of a Third Party coming to national success in 2010 or 2012, but without such a change in the way we control our elected representatives, they will continue to operate outside of any control by those whom they would, in a perfect world, actually represent.
Congress' refusal to pass such lagislation would be tantamount to an admission that they reserve the right to break any and all election promises that they so choose. It would at least be useful to get them on record making such a statement. In fact, it might be the piece of the puzzle that eventually gives Americans the impetus needed to create and support, all the way to winning on election day, a "third party" with some teeth.
The "Old Party" to which you alluded is actually the Dem-Rep Cabal that has held this nation hostage for decades. Any new "third party" would, in truth, be our "second" party. So very sad.
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What's really funny is that your posts are almost always a "whine" about other posts.
“We need to prepare ourselves for a multi-year effort with the GOP trying to sabotage it all the way.”
One area we can win is local government. The national GOP ignores local races, and we can vote conservative office holders into city and county councils, judgeships and county sheriffs.
That establishes a political base from which to launch attacks on state and national offices. From this base, we can organize, find leadership and plan attacks to take back the country. Local governments can create serious chaos in the liberal’s machinery. The federal fascists don’t have the manpower and the resources to put out a thousand brushfires.
If we had the exact same Republicans in office now that we elected in 2004. there would have been no trillion dollar stimulus and no healthcare reform. DADT would remain in effect.
The Bush tax cuts would not be expiring, cap and trade and card check would both be dead, and we would not be kissing Muslim rear end around the world while abandoning Israel and the rest of our allies.
They might not have been conservative enough for this author, but they were far more conservative than what we have now....
It is fine for conservatives to work to make the Republican Party more conservative, but it is a national party and has to win seats in liberal states to control the government and regain policy control. That means you will have moderates in the party or the GOP will remain the minority party.
That is not the Republicans fault, that is reality.
You, are right. A third party can’t win because the American people won’t consider voting for a third party in sufficient numbers to produce 270 electoral votes. Never have, never will. The people lack the imagination to do so.
Newton Gingrich for President. Now that is an unstoppable laugh!
Posting emotion base ranting and sloganeering back and forth at each other all day on your computer is NOT at all remotely like doing the hard dirty work of running the day to day operations of a viable political party.
If Conservative/Libertarians are too lazy or too disorganized to take back control of their local and state GOP party machinery from the hacks, they certainly ARE NEVER going to do the much harder work of organizing a viable political party.
Rather then cling to your emotion base opinions, look at reality just this ONE time.
........but it is a national party and has to win seats in liberal states to control the government and regain policy control......
Ahhh.... I hear a voice, the faint but unmistakable voice of reason amidst all the clatter and clamor. Can it be that amidst all the sanctimonious selfrightous chest beating there is a voice of true understanding?
I think there is.
‘We are bypassing them.’
So who is ‘we’ on the ballot in Florida in 10 weeks?
‘they just want to “win” for the sake of it.’
And you want to lose for the sake of it.
[ so I’ll reiterate. Conservatives would be far better off uniting under a party based on strong Conservative values than trying to take back a party that abandon conservative principles long ago by accepting socialism. The Republican party, as many conservatives conceive in their own mind, exists in name only!]
Agreed on this point. Hoping the conservatives move out of the rino GOP. Our politicians are supposed to represent our views and the GOP looks like the dems for sure.
Apparently none whatsoever. We will just embrace what brought us here in the first place. Just bend over and use plenty of K-Y. You'd never know by many so called conservatives and writers such as this one how this nation ever came into being in the first place. We are just gutless lemmings who can't do anything except what we are told.
The Republican Party has not been a conservative party since 1924.
Guns of the Patriots?
“Every single 3rd party in US History has completely failed to achieve any of it’s goals.”
Uhh, the Republican Party was a third party that replaced the Whigs.
Yea, except that time the Republican Party was created. You know, when the GOP was the upstart third party and the political landscape was based on the Whigs and Democrats?
What was that you said about “historic facts?”
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