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Excellent point about the rule of law and the dangers of abandoning principle and letting oneself be swept up in woh woh woh woh FEEEEEELings....
1 posted on 08/18/2010 6:30:22 AM PDT by detritus
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If one views Islam as a cancer, which it certainly is, then removing it (or encapsulating it) to prevent its spreading through the body politic is a wholly logical approach.

That unemotional enough for you?

Additionally, I don't give a sweet crap what Muslims think, or feel or want.

29 posted on 08/18/2010 6:51:25 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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“YOU MAY BE A MUSLIM IF...”

1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to liquor.

2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can’t afford shoes.

3. You have more wives than teeth.

4. You wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon “unclean.”

5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.

6. You can’t think of anyone you haven’t declared Jihad against.

7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.

8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.

9. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least four.

10. You’ve always had a crush on your neighbor’s goat.


35 posted on 08/18/2010 6:58:06 AM PDT by IbJensen ((Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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OK, let's play:

The "rule of law" should allow the open/concealed carry of guns ANYWHERE in the US.

The "rule of law" should allow the open celebration of Christmas in ALL public schools/buildings/locations.

The "rule of law" should NOT inhibit political speech or funding at any time or any place.

The "rule of law" should NOT prohibit the display of Judeo-Christian symbols in any public building or venue.

The "rule of law" should apply to equally to ALL people within the US, politicans and laymen.

The "rule of law" means enforcing ALL laws with equal vigor and fairness (paging Eric Holder...)

38 posted on 08/18/2010 6:58:21 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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The 1st guarantees the right to practice your religion. It is silent on where. In law, this dispute is about the zoning and property rights. I don’t like it one bit, but if it meets local zoning ordinances, the owners of the property have a right to build it.

If they do, they might want to wear kevlar when they pray.


39 posted on 08/18/2010 6:59:10 AM PDT by IamConservative (Two wrongs don't make a right, but you might get even.)
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Bullsh*t.

Building what would essentially be a monument to celebrate the murder of 3000 American civilians is evil, monsterous and outragious. This site was chosen for that explicit purpose and that purpose only.

It should most definitely NOT be built so close to Ground Zero. Period.

Personally, if it does get built, I hope it meets the same fate as the Twin Towers did.


40 posted on 08/18/2010 6:59:34 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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This logic is so obverse that it is actually comical.

By this logic, every American should be required to carry a gun, especially if they don’t like it. After all, it is part of American tradition and law.

I understand the infantile emotionalism and red-faced arm waving of Liberals. But it is when they attempt to use logic to justify their absurd positions that their childishness and incredibly distorted way of thinking is clearly exposed.

Liberals think differently than normal people. They have a dreamy emotional brain which has supplanted fanaticism for logic long ago. Liberalism is a culture which has embraced the childish notion that if you wish for something strong enough, it somehow will become true. They truly believe that reality is created by subjective perception and objective fact be damned.


42 posted on 08/18/2010 7:00:24 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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The washington post does not get it. It is not “a” mosque, it is a victory mosque.

Just like they raped the christian church of Hagia Sophia, the moslems put a mosque in the conqued area as a symbol of victory.

it is not about feelings, it is about right and wrong. This is just plain wrong. (we have case law which prohibits pot churches and animal sacrifice churches in certain areas too)


43 posted on 08/18/2010 7:00:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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My feeeeeelings are, never turn your back on an animal that bites or ignore a creed which promises to murder you, rape your women and enslave your children.


44 posted on 08/18/2010 7:00:44 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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46 posted on 08/18/2010 7:01:58 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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“Precluding any such law, we let people worship when and where they please. That it hurts some people’s feelings is, well, irrelevant in a nation of laws.”

This would be fine, except that it only takes one person to bring a lawsuit saying his or her feelings were hurt to get the courts to ban prayer at graduation, or singing Christian songs in school at Christmas. “Hurt feelings” count a lot in the law when Christianity is the target.


49 posted on 08/18/2010 7:06:15 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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Since when have churches been allowed everywhere, Miz Parker?
Many cities have refused permits to build Christian churches.
Christians will have to quit turning the other cheek, it seems. The threat of bombs and beheading gets a much more favorable press from our pitiful Fourth Estate.


51 posted on 08/18/2010 7:10:31 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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IBTZ


52 posted on 08/18/2010 7:13:39 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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The author just doesn't get it.

This isn't about intolerance. It is about our survival.

53 posted on 08/18/2010 7:13:51 AM PDT by Gritty (Political correctness is no longer just annoying. ItÂ’s deadly. - Lori Ziganto)
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To: 50mm; darkwing104

Sniff.....


54 posted on 08/18/2010 7:14:02 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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"...that it hurts some people's feelings..."

Some? The families of over 2000+ murdered innocents, and 70+% of the country and a vast majority of New Yorkers is 'some'?

First, I don't know any New York builder who would want to soil their hands building this building. If they did, they would probably never work in New York again. Second, has anyone discussed the possibility of renewed violence. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if someone firebombed the building after it's built.

56 posted on 08/18/2010 7:19:49 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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So what's wrong with feelings? The Declaration of Independence refers to "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind."

Part of the rationale for the mosque given by the imam and his supporters is to open up "bridge building" and "dialogue." How do you do that without paying attention to people's feelings? If these are the real aims of the imam, then he is a complete failure.

You don't do "bridge building" by ramming something down people's throats by having your supporters cite some abstract legal justification, while ignoring the real issues that concern people and making yourself unavailable for interviews and your whereabouts a secret.

57 posted on 08/18/2010 7:20:19 AM PDT by BusterBear
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Kathleen Parker is the biggest idiot on the planet. Give into Mulsim triumphalism because we are passionately against it. Kathleen, doofus, is this the way you respond to a potential rapist? Give in to prove a point?


59 posted on 08/18/2010 7:26:28 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Liberals have been trashing the constitution for the last 100 years when it comes to the Christian religion but will scream the loudest when they want the constitution to protect their own beliefs. How about the freedom of the press, freedom of speech or freedom of assembly? Publish a cartoon about a frigging Muslim murderer and see if they cry about the constitution.
63 posted on 08/18/2010 7:31:46 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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Total BS. Go read Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s piece in today’s WSJ to learn why.

How to win the clash of civilizations
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703426004575338471355710184.html


64 posted on 08/18/2010 7:40:33 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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This point surpasses even all the obvious reasons for allowing the mosque, principally that there's no law against it. Precluding any such law, we let people worship when and where they please.

Zoning restrictions have the force of law. You cant build a church in certain areas if the Board doesent want you to, you cant build an apartment complex on land the County want to keep as agricultural, and so on.

The zoning board ignored the desires of its constituents and this bimbo wants to turn this into a religious freedom issue. What a maroon.

66 posted on 08/18/2010 7:49:18 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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